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1st generation dura ace

Old 09-29-14, 03:24 PM
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1st generation dura ace

What would a complete NOS 1st generation dura ace crankset with b/b , rings and guard and also the tool still wrapped up in the box be worth? Also a 1st generation dura ace crane rear dérailleur still new in the box?
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Old 09-30-14, 08:34 AM
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Tough call. Did you search completed Ebay listings? I've got some cherry 1st gen Dura Ace stuff, not NOS, but close and I got it very reasonably. I think there is a fairly limited audience for those components and they don't seem to generate the same level of enthusiasm as say, Suntour Superbe for example.

Interested in hearing other opinions.
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Old 09-30-14, 08:37 AM
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I've been checking and prices seem to be all over the place.
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Originally Posted by sloar View Post
I've been checking and prices seem to be all over the place.
That's what I would expect. Some will pay a premium for condition and comparative rarity and some won't. But it all begins with a need or want. Value is commensurate with the strength of either.
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Old 09-30-14, 09:10 AM
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I'm trying to figure out a fair price. I don't want to give them away and I also don't want the price to be to high.
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Deja Vu: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...t-new-box.html

Here are the results, more than I would have expected: Vintage 1973 Dura Ace Groupset | eBay
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Just pointing out that the "set" in the ebay link above was misrepresented. The seller knew from his earlier posts that it was not a 1973 group, the RD being the most obvious example.
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True, the rear derailleur in that "set" was not the proper Crane or Crane GS, but the crankset, shifters, FD, calipers and levers appear to have been the correct '73 Dura-Ace components: Shimano Dura-Ace catalog (12-1973)
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I'm getting a ton of stuff that I bought off an older gentleman that use to own a bike shop and is an avid cyclist. There are a few things out of my realm of knowledge that I have to find prices for. I'm looking for an estimate on a very nice pairs of vintage detto leather shoes.
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Originally Posted by sloar View Post
I'm getting a ton of stuff that I bought off an older gentleman that use to own a bike shop and is an avid cyclist. There are a few things out of my realm of knowledge that I have to find prices for. I'm looking for an estimate on a very nice pairs of vintage detto leather shoes.
Note many of the early Dura-Ace crank sets sold in the box came with the chain guard, which some will like and others NOT. Most will be 52/42 bonus if they are 53/40. Possible bonus if not 170 mm long.
Dettos had a number of models, size Matters. Art. 7 will probably bring the most. $50-60 a pair, big discount for the sizes under size 40.

I am impressed that the bidding on that kluged group went so high, the lure of "in the box" perhaps.
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Hi! i know this thread is over 7 mos. old, but i just couldn't help but ask if any of those DA cranksets are available ? Or does anyone out there know where i can get my hands on one ? Every now and then - (usually around tune-up time and when i have the time - ha!) - i scour the planet looking for one, ever since the bike i rode that sported a DA g 200 was taken from me at knifepoint 35 yrs. ago ! - i always seem to just miss one on ebay,etc. and it's driving me nuts ! - i'm damn near ready to pay any price before my wife plants me and my bike in the ground ! Any help would be greatly appreciated !!!
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Think eBay, save your auction search. You will find one in a week or two, one at a reasonable price could take 4 to 6 weeks. I've sold a handful of them there myself. Realize when someone has these kinds of parts, selling them locally is a total waste of time. So eBay tends to be the high end vintage component market place of choice. We also have a marketplace here, much less selection.

Don't worry about NOS. Just get one in nice condition. NOS can mean 4X to 10X the price, and a lot of stuff listed as NOS is not. NOS is the most overused description on eBay IMHO.

Look at completed auctions that have SOLD to get an idea of what fair market value is. One recently sold for $50, I would call that one a DEAL.

If you get in a rush, there are always sellers out there asking 10X fair market value. Some of those sellers rarely sell anything, but their occasional sale must make up for it.

Where do sellers find these parts? Myself, they often come in the form of a complete bike (or incomplete bike). My last one came on a Trek, all of the drivetrain was Suntour, three different models, but the crankset was early DA. My choice at that point was either to find appropriate original parts, or part it out.

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Thanks, wrk ! - this happens to me every year, i guess - usually when i'm dusting off an old friend for the warmer weather riding season here in the northeast , or i look up and espy the mount that that DA crankset was supposed to be on ( a Univega gran premio from that era that i installed an SR lookalike on - the DA set was on a UO-8 when i got jacked) and i obsess over it for awhile, scour the inter - webs, etc. and usually get side - tracked with other things until i see the words Dura Ace, and my interest gets piqued again, only to feel like Charlie Brown pining for that ever-elusive blond-haired girl ! i guess i need to be more dilligent in my pursuit this time !
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I think these may fit your bill...but not sure...

Crankset Shimano Dura Ace with Bottom Bracket 52 39 170mm | eBay

Vintage Shimano Dura Ace Crankset 170mm 52 42 | eBay

One claims to be first gen, other does not...but...
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Thanks, daf ! - Been watching it for a coupla days now ....just missed a sweet one w 52/42tt chainrings and orig toolkit that went from Hong Kong to Italy ! - i'll hopefully get one soon !
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