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schwinn VOLARE ... half stock, mostly period correct

Old 11-07-14, 06:57 AM
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schwinn VOLARE ... half stock, mostly period correct

Nitto stem and bars, VO rims on low flange 70's DA hubs, kalloy seatpost, mks pedals... and he's asking for five hundos.

Is there really collectability in these bikes when they're stock? The paint seems nice, but the non-originality of it suggests that it is just a rider- which is what I'm after. I feel like I've seen full 531 Raleighs listed for closer to $300 and that the retro-cool 35 year old aluminum parts won't be what all 220 lbs of me should be cranking up CNY hills on and they're just something for me to fill up my shed with.

The only reason I'm actually thinking of pulling the trigger on this now rather than waiting till tye spring for the garage cleaning prices is it's in my stupid tall size and my preferred paint. Still- what's an appropriate price?
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Overpriced at $500. Seriously.
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So, what is an appropriate price, figuring it's an xl?
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I don't actually want "a Volare", I want a metallic red/orange and chrome, full 531 or better, >61cm st, <61cm tt, lugged, 1" threaded frame and fork. It's just especially convenient that it has the bars and saddle that I'd be putting on it.
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1977 Schwinn Volare road bike 63cm (25")

If the above is it, that's a bf members Volare, redxj's listing. You neglected to mention it has a first gen. Dura Ace group on it. Pretty close to FMV IMHO. I may be able to help facilitate if it needs to arrive in Albany, NY area from Ann Arbor.
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Originally Posted by MattoftheRocks View Post
I don't actually want "a Volare", I want a metallic red/orange and chrome, full 531 or better, >61cm st, <61cm tt, lugged, 1" threaded frame and fork. It's just especially convenient that it has the bars and saddle that I'd be putting on it.
If it fits into what your looking for then its worth a little more than if you weren't looking.

Complete 531 bikes run from $250-ish to well over $1000 depending on what it is. Some people may see value in it at $500, I do not. $500 is non-original Paramount territory.
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Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
[url=https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/bik/4694996705.html]*I may be able to help facilitate if it needs to arrive in Albany, NY area from Ann Arbor.
Yep, that is the one! I'm in Syracuse actually, but Albany would be far nicer a trip for me than Michigan. What is FMV? Really, after being terrorized by the broken parts site, and that I have wrecked a couple bottom brackets, those parts are useless to me. Annnd their ebay-value doesn't seem to me to be worth the hassle of listing and shipping.

Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
$500 is non-original Paramount territory.
That is exactly my thought, but I don't want to insult the guy with "spend your own time to strip it of the antique aluminum and sell me what's left for a quarter of what you are asking for it" because I do really like the paint and chrome, and plan on a Brooks Pro and a Noodle on whatever my next bike turns out to be.

Maybe I should just leave it for a Volare enthusiast to get and just wait for something else less valuable to its seller to come along?

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Originally Posted by MattoftheRocks View Post
Yep, that is the one! I'm in Syracuse actually, but Albany would be far nicer a trip for me than Michigan. What is FMV? Really, after being terrorized by the broken parts site, and that I have wrecked a couple bottom brackets, those parts are useless to me. Annnd their ebay-value doesn't seem to me to be worth the hassle of listing and shipping.

That is exactly my thought, but I don't want to insult the guy with "spend your own time to strip it of the antique aluminum and sell me what's left for a quarter of what you are asking for it" because I do really like the paint and chrome, and plan on a Brooks Pro and a Noodle on whatever my next bike turns out to be.

Maybe I should just leave it for a Volare enthusiast to get and just wait for something else less valuable to its seller to come along?
FMV = Fair market Value and then there's ride ready condition.

The main issue is you only need half of the bike so you have to ask yourself is the frame, fork, bars and saddle worth $500 +/- to you untill the remaining parts can be sold off?

When I valuate bike I ask a few questions:

1. Can I build the same bike for more or less?
2. If I need cash quick can I re-sell it and recoup my costs?
3. What can I sell if for parted out?

So look at it this way, say you buy it for $500 and strip away everything you dont want/need. What can you sell off those parts for? $100? $200? $400? $600? If the answer is $100 then you have $400 into a Volare F&F saddle n bars. Ouch. If the answer is $400 then youh ave $100 into a Volare F&F saddle and bars.


FWIW (For what its worth) I paid fair market value for 3 of my last 4 bikes.
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Hmm.

~$220 for bars and saddle saved, and I probably won't have regained enough strength or stamina to worry about the rest at all for another year.

While ebay>sold shows a couple road paramounts under $600, this is starting to look like a fine deal and I'm feeling like a bit of a jackass for asking him for his lowest price.
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Originally Posted by MattoftheRocks View Post
I'm feeling like a bit of a jackass for asking him for his lowest price.
Never ever feel bad about asking for the best price. It's an unwritten rule of CL that the listed price is NOT the final price.

FWIW I paid asking price ($100) for my last CL bike, the one before that I paid $350 less than asking price (grossly over priced) and the bike before that I paid $150 less than asking (moderately over priced)
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