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Help wanted: Bike identification of my "Cinelli" (or is it?)

Old 11-13-14, 03:19 AM
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Help wanted: Bike identification of my "Cinelli" (or is it?)

Dear all,

First post ever on this forum, so I hope I am getting this right. I have picked up a white (slightly pearly finish) bike, single speed (but there seem to be facilities to install a derailer), from a second hand website here in Dubai. Foto's attached.

I think it's beautiful (once I replace the handle-bar tape used to hold the rb cable in place) and I am loving it regardless of what make or model it is. I'm keen to figure out what I have in my hands anyway, which will determine the level of spend I will put into refurbing some elements. E.g. There are some pain chips on the chain stay and the fork which I would repair.

So, I am asking your help in figuring out what kind of bike this is, to get a bearing also on where to find the matching paint.

I found a number embedded into the drop out of the bike. Other than that all markings are stickers, which leads me to doubt veracity of the branding. The number is a little hard to read (final photo), but it is either:
YA16378
YA16578
I'll gladly send more pics to help id the bike.

Many thanks,

Peter
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Old 11-13-14, 07:13 AM
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Good Morning and welcome to the forums. I am no expert but I don't think that is a Cinelli and I agree some one wrongly cut off the derailleur hanger, and likely the shifter mounts and cable guides.

Can you post pictures of where the seat stays meet the seat tube, the down tubes meeting the head tube and the bottom bracket shell? The Columbus decals well.

OH the bottom bracket shell should have Cinelli stamped on it if it is a Cinelli but lots of other makers used Cinelli BB shells so that won't automatically make it a Cinelli.

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Old 11-13-14, 08:44 AM
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Evaluate it as a brand x bike. Not a cinelli... Misrepresented bikes are popping up all around here of late.
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Frame does not appear to be lugged. Thick vertical dropouts. No derailleur hanger, no shifter mounts, no eyelets, but has rear cable stop braze on. I think this is a welded steel bike of unknown (not Cinelli) brand, probably mid/low end, hanger/mounts removed but stop left on for some reason, powder coated or painted, then various Cinelli decals applied. Some okay components, such as Mavic rims, I think Normandy hubs, Campagnolo brakes, Cinelli stem/bars. Probably a nice riding bike, not much value.

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Dropouts, seat cluster and tubing joints are all wrong for an older Cinelli, which is what this purports to be. Having said that, if you got a decent deal on the bike and you enjoy the ride, more power to you. Just don't try to flip this as a Cinelli, you will be quickly outed.
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...for future reference, if you care, Cinelli used a distinctive lug decoration with a series off small drillings in them.



The only other maker who did this (to my knowledge) was Acer Mex on the Windsor Pro, which has a different fork crown. Probably tmi.
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Cinelli has been making bikes from 1946-7 to present and the three hole lugs were only used for about 15 years of that run. I would say that the fastback stay treatment is a far more defining feature (also used by many other makers).

I am not well versed on Cinelli's after 1983 but I do not think you have one, unless it is a very recent one cashing in on the old style branding.
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