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Old 11-18-14, 08:08 AM
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Curious of the value of lots of wheels

So over the last few years, I've amassed a lot of wheels that don't belong to any bikes or any future builds. I need to get them out of the house, but I have no clue what they're worth or what I should separate. Here's what I have

Mavic 500 RD hub (slotted for aero spokes)
Mavic 550 RD laced to Mavic Open 4 CD (well worn rim)

Shimano FH-7402 Dura-Ace laced to Mavic MA 40 (some wear on brake track)
Shimano HB-7402 Dura-Ace laced to Mavic MA 40 w/ 7spd Dura-Ace UG Cassette (some wear on brake track)
Specialized sealed bearing hub laced to Mavic MA 40 (very little wear on brake track)

Shimano HB-5000 Sante laced to Wolber TX Profil (little wear on brake track)

Shimano HB-1050 105 laced to Mavic Rimtec 190H (very little wear on brake track)

Shimano HB-A550 RX100 laced to Araya 7000 w/ 7 speed UG Cassette

Campagnolo 1034 Nuovo Record front laced to Fiamme Ergal w/ skewer
Campagnolo 1034 Nuovo Record rear laced to Fiamme Ergal w/ skewer (oiling port cover missing)

Thoughts on what is worth more as separate rim and hub, what's worth more intact, what they're generally worth?
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Look up ebay solds for the various wheelsets or individual hubs and rims. In most cases, if any are tubular wheels, it appears that the built up wheel brings limited added value to a higher end hub sold on its own, because shipping the built up wheel is considerably more costly than the hub alone. At least that's been my experience with a number of Campagnolo hub + tubular rim wheelsets that I've researched.

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will do. the only tubular set are the campy wheels
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Originally Posted by theblackbullet View Post
will do. the only tubular set are the campy wheels
To value those one needs more information. Especially to decide if they are worth more whole than apart. Threading, year era, brake wear, trueness, oxidation, spoke type and lacing pattern all mean something.
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$150-200. Buying a 'lot' of wheels is a big crap shot. Are there rim dents? Flat spots? Then there're the cones and races. i've bought 3 'lots' of wheels over the years and only 1 worked in my favor.
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the wheels belong to me, I am looking to sell individually.

sounds like the campy wheelset definitely needs to be unlaced.

do any of these rims hold any value on their own? Sounds like I'd be best off unlacing the dura-ace, sante, and mavic for sure
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Originally Posted by theblackbullet View Post
So over the last few years, I've amassed a lot of wheels that don't belong to any bikes or any future builds. I need to get them out of the house, but I have no clue what they're worth or what I should separate.
As someone with way too many vintage wheels, I feel your pain. Here is what I have found:
  • Tubular wheelsets are worth next to nothing. Except for me, since I ride them all of the time. But I am likely the only cyclist within a 10 mile radius doing this.
  • The most I have ever paid for a tubular wheelset was $100 for a brand new unglued set with high-flange Record hubs and Record Chrono tubular rims and DT Revolution spokes. This is as good as it gets.
  • If the tubular wheelsets have mid range rims and hubs, they truly are worth nothing. Wheels with Record or Dura-Ace level hubs are worth disassembling for the hubs. The hubs are worth a lot more than the wheels. Don't damage the spoke holes on the hubs while disassembling.
  • Dura-Ace 7400 family cassette hubs are worth nothing. They require a special small threaded cog that is impossible to source. Plus a special freehub that is a major challenge to remove and impossible to replace. Plus they have a Uniglide spline pattern.
  • In general, all Shimano hubs with Uniglide freehubs are worth nothing. I know some of them can be converted to Hyperglide freehubs, but it is generally not worth the trouble.
  • If you are extracting older freewheel hubs, make sure you REMOVE THE FREEWHEEL BEFORE YOU DISSASEMBLE THE WHEEL!!!!!!!!!!. A rear freewheel hub with the freewheel still attached is worth less than nothing.
  • I wouldn't touch an older hub with slotted spoke holes. Too much risk.
  • I wouldn't touch a vintage hub that had been radially laced. These hubs were never meant for this. Too much risk of flange failure.

Sorry.
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Originally Posted by theblackbullet View Post
So over the last few years, I've amassed a lot of wheels that don't belong to any bikes or any future builds. I need to get them out of the house, but I have no clue what they're worth or what I should separate. Here's what I have

Mavic 500 RD hub (slotted for aero spokes)
Mavic 550 RD laced to Mavic Open 4 CD (well worn rim)

Shimano FH-7402 Dura-Ace laced to Mavic MA 40 (some wear on brake track)
Shimano HB-7402 Dura-Ace laced to Mavic MA 40 w/ 7spd Dura-Ace UG Cassette (some wear on brake track)
Specialized sealed bearing hub laced to Mavic MA 40 (very little wear on brake track)

Shimano HB-5000 Sante laced to Wolber TX Profil (little wear on brake track)

Shimano HB-1050 105 laced to Mavic Rimtec 190H (very little wear on brake track)

Shimano HB-A550 RX100 laced to Araya 7000 w/ 7 speed UG Cassette

Campagnolo 1034 Nuovo Record front laced to Fiamme Ergal w/ skewer
Campagnolo 1034 Nuovo Record rear laced to Fiamme Ergal w/ skewer (oiling port cover missing)

Thoughts on what is worth more as separate rim and hub, what's worth more intact, what they're generally worth?
Do the Arayas say "7000" or "700C"? I have a set of RX100 hubs on Araya 20A rims and love them -- bulletproof. I might be interested in those if they're in decent shape and not too expensive.
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Originally Posted by theblackbullet View Post
the wheels belong to me, I am looking to sell individually.

sounds like the campy wheelset definitely needs to be unlaced.

do any of these rims hold any value on their own? Sounds like I'd be best off unlacing the dura-ace, sante, and mavic for sure
Wolber TX Profil has value as well as the Sante hub. I'd separate the two. Sell the spokes with the rim, I've done this and it works in both your favor and the buyer.

If the Campy Record hubs with Ergal rims are straight I'd try to sell them as a pair first. If they're straight go for $225 w/ free shipping. Shipping is ~$50. If they don't sell spate them as well. The parts may be worth more than the whole.

Everything else I'd cut the hubs out.
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Originally Posted by Dave Mayer View Post
As someone with way too many vintage wheels, I feel your pain. Here is what I have found:
  • Tubular wheelsets are worth next to nothing. Except for me, since I ride them all of the time. But I am likely the only cyclist within a 10 mile radius doing this.
  • The most I have ever paid for a tubular wheelset was $100 for a brand new unglued set with high-flange Record hubs and Record Chrono tubular rims and DT Revolution spokes. This is as good as it gets.
  • If the tubular wheelsets have mid range rims and hubs, they truly are worth nothing. Wheels with Record or Dura-Ace level hubs are worth disassembling for the hubs. The hubs are worth a lot more than the wheels. Don't damage the spoke holes on the hubs while disassembling.
  • Dura-Ace 7400 family cassette hubs are worth nothing. They require a special small threaded cog that is impossible to source. Plus a special freehub that is a major challenge to remove and impossible to replace. Plus they have a Uniglide spline pattern.
  • In general, all Shimano hubs with Uniglide freehubs are worth nothing. I know some of them can be converted to Hyperglide freehubs, but it is generally not worth the trouble.
  • If you are extracting older freewheel hubs, make sure you REMOVE THE FREEWHEEL BEFORE YOU DISSASEMBLE THE WHEEL!!!!!!!!!!. A rear freewheel hub with the freewheel still attached is worth less than nothing.
  • I wouldn't touch an older hub with slotted spoke holes. Too much risk.
  • I wouldn't touch a vintage hub that had been radially laced. These hubs were never meant for this. Too much risk of flange failure.

Sorry.
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I have found the same thing. Great tubular wheels, if previously glued, even in great shape, and true... $100
Not many tubular riders left. A lot of the good wheels survived. Supply and demand. Was great while I was buying them. Now that I indulged myself too much, not so great.

Best regards, Eric
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De-lace them all, sell the hubs on eBay for whatever you can get, donate the rims to a local co-op.
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