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Old 11-30-14, 12:19 PM
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Greeting all! I was chatting with a fellow about a cheap Ross 10 speed that he was selling at a yard sale but at 25" it is much to tall for me. After talking to him for a good 30 minutes he told me that he has another bike that he doesn't use and that he would be happy if it went to someone who appreciates old French bikes, ie. me. He said the bike is at his elderly mom's house and that he will send me the pictures today or tomorrow. It is a 23.5" white, '73 PX10 which he said is in great condition other than being dirty and greasy and it has a few nicks in the paint. The price, $250, and I think I am sold as long as the pictures show it in nice condition. He assured that there are no dents and the components are all new. Good deal I would think right?
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Run, don't walk.

If the bike is mostly complete, mostly original and free of any major damage from a crash or being dropped, it's a great deal.

Edit: I'm concerned that the "components are all new" might mean. This could reduce the overall value if the components are non-French or modern.
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If everything is in good condition, other than consumables and being dirty, I would consider that a great deal. The white PX-10 was THE French racing bike when I was young.
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Sorry about the confusion. That was an erroneous sentence on my part. I meant to say that the components are all original and like new. I did think that this was a good deal. I am pretty sure that I am going to go for it. Thanks guys. Now I will have to part with one of the flock so that my wife doesn't notice!

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Run, don't walk.

If the bike is mostly complete, mostly original and free of any major damage from a crash or being dropped, it's a great deal.

Edit: I'm concerned that the "components are all new" might mean. This could reduce the overall value if the components are non-French or modern.
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If everything is in good condition, other than consumables and being dirty, I would consider that a great deal. The white PX-10 was THE French racing bike when I was young.
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Barrett do you like the ride on your PX10? I have wanted one since my cycling obsession started but never had the opportunity to ride one that fits me.

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Run, don't walk.

If the bike is mostly complete, mostly original and free of any major damage from a crash or being dropped, it's a great deal.

Edit: I'm concerned that the "components are all new" might mean. This could reduce the overall value if the components are non-French or modern.
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I having ridden it yet , but I'm sure it will be excellent.

I'd tell the wife that it will be a good investment. I say this all the time, and sometimes it's actually true.
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I purchased a 71 Peugeot PX 10 last month, my grail bike, since I still have my 74 U08 mixte it would be match pair! The PX10 ride is incredible and magical, for a 43 year old bike compared to other bikes I've had. It came as pictured except for the saddle:







Once you ride the PX 10, no looking at the plastic bikes there's no comparison!

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Greeting all! I was chatting with a fellow about a cheap Ross 10 speed that he was selling at a yard sale but at 25" it is much to tall for me. After talking to him for a good 30 minutes he told me that he has another bike that he doesn't use and that he would be happy if it went to someone who appreciates old French bikes, ie. me. He said the bike is at his elderly mom's house and that he will send me the pictures today or tomorrow. It is a 23.5" white, '73 PX10 which he said is in great condition other than being dirty and greasy and it has a few nicks in the paint. The price, $250, and I think I am sold as long as the pictures show it in nice condition. He assured that there are no dents and the components are all new. Good deal I would think right?
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I do the same thing. She likes the fact that it is a productive hobby and a healthy one and she also enjoys riding the bikes I work on for her. She just says 8 at one time is the max!

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I having redden it yet , but I'm sure it will be excellent.

I'd tell the wife that it will be a good investment. I say this all the time, and sometimes it's actually true.
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That is a beautiful PX! What size is it? I cannot wait until I have one in my possession.

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I purchased a 71 Peugeot PX 10 last month, my grail bike, since I still have my 74 U08 mixte it would be match pair! The PX10 ride is incredible and magical, for a 43 year old bike compared to other bikes I've had. It came as pictured except for the saddle:







Once you ride the PX 10, no looking at the plastic bikes there's no comparison!
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One thing to keep in mind is that the Peugeot made less expensive bikes that are frequently confused for PX-10s. We get questions all the time on this forum from people who think they have a PX 10 but they don't. Excellent deal at $250 but make sure that it really is a PX-10.
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The Peugeot PX 10 size 53.25 cm, standover height 30.25in, just enough clearance to straddle the bike!
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That is a beautiful PX! What size is it? I cannot wait until I have one in my possession.
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Just be aware that many from that era have tubular tires/rims, which may or may not be suitable for your budget or environment. You can make no change, rebuild the hubs with clincher rims, or buy a new set of wheels. Be prepared for about a $150-$200 before tires. PX10s are a smooth riding and responsive classic. Here is mine as purchased in March, with clincher rims.

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Thanks a lot guys! I have a couple of U08's and I definitely know the difference between them and a PX10. If I have any uncertainty i will certainly post before buying. i also have a few extra clincher wheelsets that I can use if the tubulars aren't working for me. I have tubular Mavic Cosmos rims with Hutchinson tires on my Cannondale R600 and I do like them on that racer. A few flats but overall pretty good. Thanks again and I am going to check it out tomorrow.

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Unfortunately, 95% of the "PX10s" out there are UO8s. Its the most misidentified model out there. Easy to spot the difference for any knowledgeable cyclist.
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One thing to keep in mind is that the Peugeot made less expensive bikes that are frequently confused for PX-10s. We get questions all the time on this forum from people who think they have a PX 10 but they don't. Excellent deal at $250 but make sure that it really is a PX-10.
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Just be aware that many from that era have tubular tires/rims, which may or may not be suitable for your budget or environment. You can make no change, rebuild the hubs with clincher rims, or buy a new set of wheels. Be prepared for about a $150-$200 before tires. PX10s are a smooth riding and responsive classic. Here is mine as purchased in March, with clincher rims.

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Hey, those are nice looking bikes!
The bike in my avatar is a 74 PX10e... and they all came with tubular rims.
The ride was soft and cushy... ok until you got over 25 or 30 mph and hit some rough road... now you have the death wobble.
Chrome forks, chain stays and seat stays.
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Unfortunately, 95% of the "PX10s" out there are UO8s. Its the most misidentified model out there. Easy to spot the difference for any knowledgeable cyclist.
Hey Thrifty Bill...for those of us still learning...could you list the differences? I have zero experience with Peugeot...so...would love to hear...
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PX 10 for 250 is a very good deal
Px 10 has a 531 frame, U08 has chromoly frame I believe
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Hey Thrifty Bill...for those of us still learning...could you list the differences? I have zero experience with Peugeot...so...would love to hear...
My name's not Thrifty Bill, however, MiamiJim's site is a good place to start:

PX10 ID

An original U08 has chrome rims, Normandy high flange hubs, a Delrin Simplex RD, a cracked Delrin FD, cottered cranks, no chrome on the rear stays, and Aztec style frame lugs.
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My name's not Thrifty Bill, however, MiamiJim's site is a good place to start:

PX10 ID

An original U08 has chrome rims, Normandy high flange hubs, a Delrin Simplex RD, a cracked Delrin FD, cottered cranks, no chrome on the rear stays, and Aztec style frame lugs.
Not Thrifty Bill, but works for me...thanks!!!!
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So the guy must have spoken to someone because he came back at $300 this morning. I am supposed to meet him tomorrow. Is this still reasonable? I am considering taking the 300 and assessing the bike and bargaining down. My other option is a great looking '77 Raleigh Super Course TT in flamboyant red for half the proce but ober 2 hours away. What woud you do guys? I am not sure right now.
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If the bike is original and all components are in as good of condition as he says I would buy it in an instant. Original PX-10's in my area are selling for $500+ on CL.

It is a shame though that the seller is willing to go back on his word for a lousy $50.
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$50 in NYC? That's just a cab ride to LaGuardia or two hours of midtown parking. Go for it.
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This is the beggining of winter even if they go for 500 which I think is high, a bike should go for about half that now. I have bought about 9 bikes in the last 4 weeks, all for much cheaper than I will sell them for in March and April. No one is buying bikes now, i would offer him the original 250, cause he is not going to sell that bike now. I bought a Schwinn Town and Country trike with a yellow band kick back hub that was hardly ridden last week for 150, in March i will ask 300 for it. I bought a beautiful black mens Suburban upright 10 speed for 50 bucks in the spring I will easily get 150 for it. Px 10 only go for around 300 here anyway, some of the components were not very good. Best part of the bike is the frame.
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So the guy must have spoken to someone because he came back at $300 this morning. I am supposed to meet him tomorrow. Is this still reasonable? I am considering taking the 300 and assessing the bike and bargaining down. My other option is a great looking '77 Raleigh Super Course TT in flamboyant red for half the proce but ober 2 hours away. What woud you do guys? I am not sure right now.
Frankly...at these prices...particularly in your market...I would be looking at both! Then assess the one you like the best and sell the other one...probably for a profit!
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.... It came as pictured

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Once you ride the PX 10, no looking at the plastic bikes there's no comparison!
I am not sure about the "Ben Hur" orientation of the front quick release... But this makes be wish I had bought one in 1975 as a training bike. I thought about it a long time. Even threw a set of wheels on it to test ride as the tires arrived unglued... The club I rode for was even sponsored by Peugeot, ( back then no thought of getting a deal from the sponsor...)
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I installed the original Normandy/AVA wheels for the photo, I don't normally have the levers in the "Ben Hur" position. I have my set of Pelissier 2000 with Bontrager clincher rims as my regular wheel set up (streets of Chicago is no place for tubulars)
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I am not sure about the "Ben Hur" orientation of the front quick release... But this makes be wish I had bought one in 1975 as a training bike. I thought about it a long time. Even threw a set of wheels on it to test ride as the tires arrived unglued... The club I rode for was even sponsored by Peugeot, ( back then no thought of getting a deal from the sponsor...)
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