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Bottecchia Gran Turismo -- Good Frame -- Whats It Worth ??

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Old 12-12-14, 09:27 PM
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Bottecchia Gran Turismo -- Good Frame -- Whats It Worth ??

I'd like to flog this old bike. Good frame & forks (Columbus & Campagnolo) but components not impressive.
I thought about restoring it but am really not attached.
What can I expect ??

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Old 12-13-14, 06:51 AM
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Better cleaning (top of fork has grease, dirt near shifters, rear triangle), new bar tape...in Atlanta, it might bring 150 this time of year, IMHO
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Old 12-13-14, 08:02 AM
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Nice looking bike. The graphics on Bottecchias are great, and the blue is really a nice color. Even though it has somewhat a hodge podge of components I would think you could get in the $350-400 range. That is what I would want for a bike like that or expect to pay if buying.
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The bike has a good quality component group given its era. I can't make out the derailleurs but the hubs look to be normandy competition. Plus the bike has a TA crank, universal brakes, gran sport shifters. Add in a good quality frame and you're talking about a very solid upper level bike back in the day. If you can market it as a vintage bike to the right buyer, I'd say $200-$300 to the right buyer. As a rider to someone who doesn't value a vintage bike, the bike is a tough sell (pre-indexing).

Toronto has to be a hot market for vintage bikes so I'd clean it up and take a shot at the high end. You'll need to write a good ad (something better than good frame and unimpressive components!).
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Locale will be everything on price of this one.
I could see $250. Locally in Southern California. With little effort.
To the knowledgeable there are some issues, mixed TA and Stronglight crank set, hardware store chainring fasteners...
I would polish up the bright work move the brake levers, tape the bars in white and ask, $280.
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These must be hot bikes in the Chicago area. I see the basic "boom" entry level Bottecchia, some in ratty condition, and they don't last long on CL. And $150 for a basic beater that needs attention. The OP has a high end model. The TA/Stronglight combo crank adds huge value to me. If this bike was listed for $300 or less on CL I would be all over it. But my valuing is really different from most, as evident in this thread. I realize I am one of the few that values "real" ten speeds, old French components, friction downtube shifting, and the great quality paint and graphics. Those are turn offs to a lot of people.

I sold the low end version of this bike, frame only for $100. It showed up on CL a couple weeks later as a tricked out fixie with an asking price of $425. Wasn't listed long and it was gone.
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
Locale will be everything on price of this one.
I could see $250. Locally in Southern California. With little effort.
To the knowledgeable there are some issues, mixed TA and Stronglight crank set, hardware store chainring fasteners...
I would polish up the bright work move the brake levers, tape the bars in white and ask, $280.
$250 tops here.
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No love for the old bikes. And in C&V!
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No love for the old bikes. And in C&V!
Indeed, no love for the old bikes. But I do agree with your assessment.

As for the rest of you, Thanks for all the info.

I'll try it out on the Toronto market see if anyone wants an old beater.

And it gets better: I found a slick alloy rear derailleur for it in the Junk Drawer: Not stock, but smooth.
I'll try to make sure whoever buys it doesn't intend to turn it into a fixie.

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The other thing not mentioned, I've never seen the Gran Tourismo model before. I think the top two bikes were the Giro d' italia, and the Professional. With Campy dropouts I would think your bike is top o the line touring bike. the frame alone is worth a buck and a half. And it's outfitted with some nice components.
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The other thing not mentioned, I've never seen the Gran Tourismo model before. I think the top two bikes were the Giro d' italia, and the Professional. With Campy dropouts I would think your bike is top o the line touring bike. the frame alone is worth a buck and a half. And it's outfitted with some nice components.
I hope you are right. There is a Gran Turismo listed right below the Giro d'Italia model in the 1972 Bottecchia catalog. Looks similar but not identical.

Anyway, I put the bike on eBay in Toronto. Hopefully there is a Bottecchia fan out there with deep pockets and long arms itching for a winter project.


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This is a very nice vintage mid level bike with nice details and components. Chrome lugs TA crank and GS components. In nice ready to go condition with good tires I could see one getting $275-300 yet it may take a while to sell at this time of year.
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Very nice, the rear derailleur is now a better (not perfect) match, more so than the front changer which is obviously a replacement. Love the frame/bike, but what is up with the very long handlebar stem? Value - agree with Zukahn1.
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Better cleaning (top of fork has grease, dirt near shifters, rear triangle), new bar tape...in Atlanta, it might bring 150 this time of year, IMHO

I agree IMHO it needs a lot of cleaning to make it ready to ride. Other than replace the RD, which I don't really understand why you did that, did you actually do anything? Adjust clean the brakes? Replace or scruff up the brake pads to increase performance? New grease in hubs, headset and BB? If you didn't do anything to improve the bike and make it more mechanically sound for the next owner just sell it for $20 more than you paid and call it a day.
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Love the frame/bike, but what is up with the very long handlebar stem? Value - agree with Zukahn1.

The handlebar stem does seem to be outrageously long - 13cm (5 inches) - so maybe it was designed to be ridden by a chimpanzee.

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I agree IMHO it needs a lot of cleaning to make it ready to ride. Other than replace the RD, which I don't really understand why you did that, did you actually do anything? Adjust clean the brakes? Replace or scruff up the brake pads to increase performance? New grease in hubs, headset and BB? If you didn't do anything to improve the bike and make it more mechanically sound for the next owner just sell it for $20 more than you paid and call it a day.

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