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Old 12-14-14, 05:57 AM
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1962 Atala Professional...

I would like to buy this old Atala, 1962 vintage, 55cm c-c seat tube, very good original condition. How much is the bicycle worth? Here is the present owner's information package...








"The color is an iridescent gold, very pretty in the sunlight. The chrome is very
good to excellent. Crank is Campy Record 151 BCD, it shows little wear. Front
derailleur is Campy Record, the model with the built-in cable stop, VG to excellent.
Reat derailleur is Campy Gran Sport, this is the original and correct mech for the
1962 Record gruppo (the bronze Record mech was introduced in 1963). Hubs are Campy
Record high flange, original and correct. Shift levers and clamps are all Campy,
correct and original. Brakes are Universal 61 original to the bike. I don't know
what year the Campy Record side-pull brakes became available. Brake shoes have been
replaced. Rims are Fiamme yellow label tubular rims. Some of the decal is missing
on one or both of the rims. Stem and bars are Ambrosio, original and correct. Note
the cream colored plastic cap on the tightening nut for the stem -- I have never
seen another like it -- they must be extremely rare. Saddle is Brooks
(Professional, I think) with "Campagnolo" embossed on the leather. Saddle looks
almost new. Tires are some cotton tubulars that I put on to protect the rims, not
glued, not ridden. Pump is not original, the original one was white and
disintegrated several years ago (?).
I only know of one significant pain chip, it is on the "wall" side of the frame so I
can't get a good picture of it. No dents, no visible rust."
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Old 12-14-14, 07:17 AM
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Personally...no way to put a value on it...but...it is a nice looking (from the pics) and seems to be rare...would make a great addition to a collection...
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I agree it is a tough bike to put a price tag on. I'm assuming factory original paint.
What is your goal? Are you planning on riding it, or hanging it on the wall for another 50 years?

A "Classic" should come in somewhere between $300 and $1500. I just don't see it commanding a price in the thousands.

Before riding it, you'll need a minimum of repacking all the bearings (hubs, headset, and bottom bracket), and 2 new sewups, handlebar tape, and a complete once-over tune-up. But, to make it into an everyday rider, you'll have a longer list of upgrades including almost everything other than the bare frame (old parts, of course have value on E-Bay).

If you throw it up on E-Bay or Craigslist between $300 and $500, someone will probably snap it up fairly quickly.
Throw it up between $1500 and $2000, and it may be bought immediately, or it may hang out unsold for months, or years.

So...
Somewhere between $800 and $1000 would likely be a fair price for buyer and seller.

I always hate to see a beautiful bike parted out, but undoubtedly the parts are worth more than the whole.

I may be "cheap" though.
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I just sold a very similar 1968 frame for $100

Considering that this one has all the components, I would maybe pay $350 for it.

Atalas are cool, but I prefer bottecchias from that period; another mass produced italian. Much better build quality and my specimen rides nicer than my old Atala Professional (now sold).
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$350 is waaaaay low. You might be able to sell the Record derailleur alone for that much if you're patient! (edit, I misread, it's a Gran Sport.)

My feeling is CliffordK has a good read on the price, $800 sounds about right to me. He's right also that the parts are worth more than the whole.
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Some bikes should be parted out...but not this one...
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I suppose the question is what is in a brand?

If that was a Colnago Super, it would have a lot less chrome (just fork crowns?), and could easily fetch over $1000 in nearly mint (original) condition.

I don't worry about things like replacing the sewups with clinchers, but the sewups are ok for an "authentic" original.
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Dear Randyjawa... Any chance this Atala is for sale now? I've been looking for one like it. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by exxongraftek View Post
Zombie thread
Just out of curiosity what is the exact number of months or years that make a zombie thread? This one is 14.5 months old.
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Dear Randyjawa... Any chance this Atala is for sale now? I've been looking for one like it. Thanks!

Brad
Not any longer - sorry. But I finally scored a Pro, 1969 vintage...



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Originally Posted by blakcloud View Post
Just out of curiosity what is the exact number of months or years that make a zombie thread? This one is 14.5 months old.
Ii have always thought that a year was a good demarcation - to allow for the s...l...o...w... response speed of two-finger-hunt-and-peck typists like meself.
Judging by Randyjawa's post, perhaps I was a bit premature...or I need to believe in magickal thread resurrections!

BTW RJ, that is a GORGEOUS machine...congratulations!

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Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
$350 is waaaaay low. You might be able to sell the Record derailleur alone for that much if you're patient! (edit, I misread, it's a Gran Sport.)

My feeling is CliffordK has a good read on the price, $800 sounds about right to me. He's right also that the parts are worth more than the whole.
+1

800-1000 seems about right. The 151 crank has value.
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Funny, I just fixed up a 1960 Olmo gran sport; love the bike and I think I may have to (eventually) find another old Italian road bike to fix up and ride. The Atala pros (1969 and 1962) look great.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
The 151 crank has value.
really? i would just assume the limited source of rings (and 46t min ring) would make it far less valuable than a more common 144bcd crank.

are these 151 sets sought after by track guys, or ..?
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really? i would just assume the limited source of rings (and 46t min ring) would make it far less valuable than a more common 144bcd crank.

are these 151 sets sought after by track guys, or ..?
Because they're far less common that 144, and if you have a bike from this era and want it correct...
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
Because they're far less common that 144, and if you have a bike from this era and want it correct...
gotcha: for the guys that "restore" bikes as opposed to "refurbishing" them.

i've never restored one. refurbished over thirty.
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Thanks for replies! I did recently buy the '58 and '63 Atala's that were listed on Ebay. The '63 looks very like your "1969 Vintage." Same paint scheme. No visible model name Some lesser parts make me wonder about what model it is: Gran Sport front changer when Record was available. Sport downtube shifters rather than Gran Sport. Steel seat post. Steel frame Sheffield pedals. Tubing sticker is tubi renforazati Columbus, Campy dropouts, and frame details are top level. I haven't seen a catalog for this period.
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