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Old 12-16-14, 08:19 AM
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Looking at picking up this 1991 Trek 2300 w/carbon tubes

Been having a heck of a time finding a small ~50cm bike for a back-up roadie in my area. I found this one and I think it has potential with a few tweaks (handlebars #1 )...however the guy is asking $600. I haven't thrown him an offer yet so I thought I would check in here.

All that I know about it at this point is that it has 105 components.

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Old 12-16-14, 09:00 AM
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Tri bars lower a bike's value, but are worth $30 on ebay.

IMHO, overpriced by $200-$250, depending on your local market.
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Old 12-16-14, 12:34 PM
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Yep, way overpriced for SoCal right now.

And I don't think that is a 2300 either. I think it's a 91-93 2100 (Splash paint narrows the model year), which would have come with Shimano 105 (which is what the bike in question is wearing). Trek 2300s came with Shimano Ultegra 600 and a 8-speed cassette. Trek Composites usually sport a decal with the model number on the seat tube.

How many speeds on the cassette on the bike in question?

Trek Composites are going for between $180-$350, depending on the condition, the Group, and frame size.

The nearly perfect 93 Trek 2300 (came without wheels) that I got earlier this summer cost me my Alpine Grand Record (Japanese made steel bike), and the Buyer added $100 cash on top. $350-$400 should buy you a near perfect Trek 2300 with working brifters.

Does not look like the Seller took good care of it from the looks of the dirt and grease.

Look on eBay, small frames are not in big demand.

Here is something that could be a better deal. It's newer (I think it's a 96), it looks like it's cleaner, it's, more original, the tires are shot, price is still a little high, and you would have to find a way to get it. It's on a long "Buy It Now", so my guess is that a Flipper owns it. I'd contact the Seller, and offer less.

Trek 2X Carbon 2100 (20″ Frame) Bike Bicycle
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Trek-2X-Carbon-2100-20-Frame-Bike-Bicycle-/181587656275

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Thank you for the replies!

Really a shame that the seller is asking so much, because I would still really like to have this bike. I haven't seen it in person yet and I'm waiting for the seller to tell me more about it (7 or 8 speed?, etc).

Seems insulting to ask for half off...no?

Perhaps I'll keep looking.
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Old 12-16-14, 02:04 PM
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MAybe if you tell the seller that its really a 2100 rather than a 2300 you will not feeling so bad offering way less than asking price.
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Old 12-16-14, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bumbles View Post
Thank you for the replies!

Really a shame that the seller is asking so much, because I would still really like to have this bike. I haven't seen it in person yet and I'm waiting for the seller to tell me more about it (7 or 8 speed?, etc).

Seems insulting to ask for half off...no?

Perhaps I'll keep looking.

He will probably be insulted, yeah, but you don't know him and it can't hurt to ask. His price is dreamland.
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Don't feel bad.

Offer what you think the bike is really worth (to me it's not worth that much). Look at what the market is asking (eBay and craigslist), and look at the completed auctions on eBay. That will get you an honest idea of what something is actually changing hands for (and not what the inflated asking price may be).

Trek Composite bikes are nice rides, but they are between 17-27 years old.

You aren't insulting the Seller, he obviously does not know much about the bike. For all you know he found it on the side of the road (or got it in a barter or trade deal), and has ZERO REAL Dollars invested in it.

$600 for that particular bike is too much, even if you got some background history/documentation with it.

My advice is: "don't get emotionally attached to it". There are plenty of fish in the sea (and used Trek Composite bikes for sale). Something else will come along shortly, if this is not the deal for you.

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I acquired a super clean 1994 Trek 2200 with Campagnolo Veloce Group which was oem, for under $300 on ebay about 8 months ago.

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Originally Posted by bumbles View Post
Thank you for the replies!

Really a shame that the seller is asking so much, because I would still really like to have this bike. I haven't seen it in person yet and I'm waiting for the seller to tell me more about it (7 or 8 speed?, etc).

Seems insulting to ask for half off...no?

Perhaps I'll keep looking.
From my experience, bikes are seldom in as good a condition as advertised. When it comes time to actually go see a bike, take your riding clothes and test ride it, and make a note of things that need correcting. Sellers usually build some leeway into their asking price, so you can temper your offer with the reasons for a reduction from the seller's asking price. Remember that parts and service are not cheap unless you are going to shop for the parts, install them yourself, and do the maintenance yourself.

I pay my initial offer price or advertised price about 1/3 to 1/2 of the time because there always seems to be a/some problems that the Seller did not disclose before I got there to see the bike. Bent wheels, missing parts or broken parts, rust, and frame wrong size are usually what I find. Sometimes it's very frustrating when the defect/s are clearly visible, and I get the feeling that Sellers will say anything to get you there, figuring that you won't turn down the deal after you have invest time and gas to go see the bike. You MUST BE WILLING TO WALK AWAY, otherwise you are SUCKER waiting to be plucked.

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Old 12-16-14, 04:24 PM
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$225-250
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bumbles...if your looking for a project a neighbor of mine has 2 small bikes. IMHO they both need a ton of work but the frame and forks are solid.
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Originally Posted by bumbles View Post
Thank you for the replies!

Really a shame that the seller is asking so much, because I would still really like to have this bike. I haven't seen it in person yet and I'm waiting for the seller to tell me more about it (7 or 8 speed?, etc).

Seems insulting to ask for half off...no?

Perhaps I'll keep looking.
First...welcome to the Bike Forums!

second...I totally agree that this is overpriced...you have seen the estimates...I concur...and...while not expert on Treks...this one could use some work.

Finally,,,I fully agree on negotiating...it never hurts to ask...if you do not ask, they have already said no! But...if you bring knowledge...a lot of sellers appreciate that...of course, some do not...YMMV...
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Originally Posted by daf1009 View Post
First...welcome to the Bike Forums!

second...I totally agree that this is overpriced...you have seen the estimates...I concur...and...while not expert on Treks...this one could use some work.

Finally,,,I fully agree on negotiating...it never hurts to ask...if you do not ask, they have already said no! But...if you bring knowledge...a lot of sellers appreciate that...of course, some do not...YMMV...

Thanks, glad to be here!

Right. I think I will make a low offer with a few bits on what I learned about it...but no big deal if he turns it down. I only found this bike through a less than detailed, picture-less craigslist ad that was posted a month ago. I dig these early 90's bikes.
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Originally Posted by miamijim View Post
bumbles...if your looking for a project a neighbor of mine has 2 small bikes. IMHO they both need a ton of work but the frame and forks are solid.
no kidding? Do you know much about the frames? Interested.
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The '91 trek composite frames had DT shifters. '92 frames were the first to have brifters.
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Originally Posted by bumbles View Post
Thanks, glad to be here!

Right. I think I will make a low offer with a few bits on what I learned about it...but no big deal if he turns it down. I only found this bike through a less than detailed, picture-less craigslist ad that was posted a month ago. I dig these early 90's bikes.
Good luck...
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In super great shape and with a good group like a Suntour Superbe Pro or Shimano DA 7400 group, I'd pay up to 450 bucks for it. With the "lesser" 105's a max price for it might be 350 bucks, in best conditions. With what I see (The bike could certainly use a good cleaning and servicing) I'd start sith a more than fair offer of 300 bucks and figt to keep it close to that. Any sign of really hard use or abuse on the frame kills a CF bike's value in a much bigger way that a steel equivalent..... so you might use any damage on the paint and graphics or light surface corrosion, dulling or even just dirt on any of the components as your leverage to lower the asking price on it, as sellers also know to sometimes use the requirement for smaller frames for enough people can be used as their own leverage to jack up their asking price.

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Here's a much better deal that's on eBay right now.

Trek 2120 ZX Carbon Series Road Bike Bicycle 20" Frame C T for Repair | eBay

Much newer 50cm Trek 2120 (96 or 97) with a triple crank, in more original condition, and it comes with brifters (although one brifter needs some attention, WD-40) for $150, plus $53 for shipping if you can't pick it up.
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A caution, wd40 doesn't always work to fix brifters, I bought a 2000 LeMond and after three weeks of trying to get them to work gave up and replaced them. If they don't work include cost of replacing when setting a bid price.
I still take them out and tinker with them to no avail.
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A caution, wd40 doesn't always work to fix brifters, I bought a 2000 LeMond and after three weeks of trying to get them to work gave up and replaced them. If they don't work include cost of replacing when setting a bid price.
I still take them out and tinker with them to no avail.
Trek 2120 ZX Carbon Series Road Bike Bicycle 20" Frame C T for Repair | eBay

Still a better deal than the misidentified Trek 2100 that the OP was asking about buying for a Craigslist Price of $600. At $200 delivered, the OP can afford to remove the brifters and send them in for repair ( if flushing them does not work). There are several people on eBay offering to repair (disassemble, lubricate and replace parts) sets of early Shimano metal brifters for $60-$70 a set. I would not be surprised if the guys that are advertising to fix the brifters for a fee on eBay are BF Members.

For between $20-$40 the OP could also convert the bike to DT shifters (like the early Trek 2100 in the ad that he was asking about), and sell the brifters for more than he pays for the DT shifters.
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Nonworking brifters are not a deal breaker, just consider the cost of repair or replacement when making a deal.
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