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Old 01-03-15, 06:17 PM
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very old first generation(?) Stumpjumper

I'd appreciate your opinions and values on this bike as-is and rehabbed (without repaint). It is part of an estate and the family needs prices to get the true value out of it.

I believe it is one of the earliest stumpjumpers. I think it's original except maybe the wheels and seat post. Seat and tires are not original.

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That bike has components from multiple eras. Derailleurs are more recent vintage than the brakes and levers. Chainrings are not OE, either. Shift levers are most likely not OE, as Specialized would not have mixed those Shimano and SunTour components.

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Old 01-03-15, 08:11 PM
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That's why I'm asking the experts... How about some values?
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I sold a 1982/83 StumpJumper Sport for $150. It had been ridden less than 100 miles.
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Might be a $200 bike in a very hot bike market if sold to a collector. Poor overall condition and the grab-bag mix of parts will definitely hurt the value. Cool bike nonetheless!

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$175 on a very nice day in Minnesota.
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The problem with selling the bike is that it's not worth much as a rider. So you'll have to find a buyer who values it for what it is but then it has issues since the parts are not original. I'd take a shot at trying to get $200 for it on CL but it will take a good ad explaining what the bike is. It might fetch more on e-bay as vintage mtb prices have been trending up. I'm skeptical that it's worth the effort to sell it there.

You might do well trying to sell that bike on this forum as well. There are potential buyers here who might well value it for what it is.
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Old 01-04-15, 01:22 AM
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Sorry if I double posted, but not seen my post of a few minutes ago. That's and 1983 SJ made during December of 1982. Saddle, tires, Chain rings (if arms are AT, can't tell), pedals, maybe grips have been replaced with newer parts. Rims, and derailleurs are from an 85 Stumpy, shifters from an 86 sport. The rest is there, with patience finding the right person will bring to you about $150 for the brake set up. It 's a cool lugged Stumpy, with Bullmoose bars, and Bi-plane fork, but it looks that it sat too long on a humid place, the rust under the BB might suggest what lies inside, you must service that before you keep riding it, perhaps number 3,000 and change built that batch of December of 82. About 50,000 MTBs were made in 1983 according to MOMBATs research.
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That bike has components from multiple eras. Derailleurs are more recent vintage than the brakes and levers. Chainrings are not OE, either. Shift levers are most likely not OE, as Specialized would not have mixed those Shimano and SunTour components.

I disagree. I find it reasonable that Specialized may have intentionally mixed shipmano and Suntour drive components. Back in the early '80s there were very few complete groups let alone one for every price point so brand mixing was pretty common. It was done to meet price points but also to get the best performance out a bike and the components.

shipmano tried very hard to stop this with their SLR brake systems (you want shipmano calipers you had to use their levers for best performance and vice versa) and STI started out this was by incorporating the shifter mount onto the brake lever to make it hard to use a dia compe brake and shipmano drive train.


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$200 would be a fair price.
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I disagree. I find it reasonable that Specialized may have intentionally mixed shipmano and Suntour drive components. Back in the early '80s there were very few complete groups let alone one for every price point so brand mixing was pretty common. It was done to meet price points but also to get the best performance out a bike and the components.

shipmano tried very hard to stop this with their SLR brake systems (you want shipmano calipers you had to use their levers for best performance and vice versa) and STI started out this was by incorporating the shifter mount onto the brake lever to make it hard to use a dia compe brake and shipmano drive train.


What a classic!

I owned/rode StumpJumpers from that era, and I can tell you that the SunTour XC derailleurs are of a much newer vintage than the Shimano Deore shifters.
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This was my dad's bike. I am the original rider, and I rode it more than he did in the 80s. Commentary/recollections:

Wheels are originals, new tires, built by Wheelsmith.

Shifters are definitely original.

Shimano Biopace chainrings are original. I vividly remember how annoying they were in lower gears. Very "pulsed" on slow single-track.

I am not sure about the derailleurs, but they look right to me. The bike was a mixed bag from the factory. The brakes are Mafac braze-ons -- definitely not part of anyone's MTB grupo. Same goes for the Tommaselli motorcycle brake levers.
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Keep it to remember your Dad by. In its current condition, the sentimental value is greater than the monetary value.
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Stumpys are hard to find, although sometimes they show up in batches. I would follow @mparker326's advice and hang onto it. It will appreciate in value over time.
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For your information attached is the 84 specs, these probably carried from 83 model. To the best of my knowledge, my sources are catalogs, database of old pictures, articles, selected commentaries from people involved on designing the bikes (found on web or published). The first Shimano part used by Stumpjumper were brake cable hangers (1982-83) (TAs were to narrow had to be drilled), dropuots in 1985 models beginning around Sept 1984 those has chrome stays and forks under the paint. Brake levers on '85 Team model and maybe on Sport model that year (for sure on 86 Sport models). Suntour was considered of better quality that Shimano until the lost their patent on rear derailleur parallelograms, and probably really picked up in 1982. The rims on the picture are Saturae X28 from Stumpjumper 1985 model. Those came with serialized Wheelsmith golden label?

I'm just informing you of what you have. Most people are inclined to collect the lugged '83 Stumpys (Miyata frames M2G and forward), but the original 82s had TIG welded frames. To the proper person that bike is worth $1000 even in that condition. Your bike could have been specially ordered with those levers and cranks, I think first available on 1983 Date codes GH to HH, code on the levers are on the hidden side between the clamps. She just became 32, a true classic keep it and enjoy it they do ride very comfortable.
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I apologize for the many typos (had to retype twice). In my opinion Shimano really picked up after 1985 not '82.
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That bike has what looks to be fairly serious rust issues on the chainstays.

Here are the specs for the 1982 specialized stumpjumper:

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