Search
Notices
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals. Use this subforum for all requests as to "How much is this vintage bike worth?"Do NOT try to sell it in here, use the Marketplaces.

'83 Holdsworth Mistral

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-09-15, 04:49 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
IcySmooth52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Portland, ME
Posts: 1,620
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
'83 Holdsworth Mistral


I was wondering what you guys would say to this ride's value. This is the picture from when I bought it this fall. Currently, it's stripped down to the frame and soon to be primed for repainting (same color custom order, and exact details to be re-printed). How about good condition value vs. perfectly refurbished condition?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
Holdsworth B4.jpg (98.8 KB, 163 views)
IcySmooth52 is offline  
Old 01-13-15, 04:21 PM
  #2  
Bianchi Goddess
 
Bianchigirll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 27,846

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

Mentioned: 192 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2926 Post(s)
Liked 2,921 Times in 1,489 Posts
I can't believe no one commented this.

Are you having it professionally repainted or is it a DIY job? Either way if you not likely to get your investment back. I don't see why it needs repainted in the first place.

__________________
One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Old 01-13-15, 05:19 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
bertinjim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Niagara Region, Canada
Posts: 1,451

Bikes: 1970s Alex Singer, 1960s Peugeot PX 10, 1960s Bertin C37, 1973 Carre Bertin C 37, 1972 Carlton Kermesse, 1981 Peugeot PX 14 Super Competition

Mentioned: 65 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 344 Post(s)
Liked 266 Times in 157 Posts
IcySmooth52-

Bianchigirl is right. The bike looks fine in the photo provided. It's already stripped down so clean it, wax, lube, add new cables and hoods and re-assemble. Maybe add a used Brooks. If you re-sell, you still will be getting about 50 cents an hour for your labour but it will likely go in the $400 range depending on your area's market. The lack of response here is probably a reflection of the lower interest in Brit bikes of the period compared to Italian and the idiosyncratic components.
bertinjim is offline  
Old 01-13-15, 05:45 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
daf1009's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Posts: 2,982

Bikes: LESS than I did a year ago!

Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 70 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 5 Posts
I would also concur on the repaint...don't do it...even in the same color, it is not original then! Not sure that is quite so important...but...why? The paint looks really great in the pictures...as do the decals. To me, this is a very attractive bike! If you were closer, who knows, I may even be interested!!!! As I do like the Brit bikes (as @bertinjim says)..
daf1009 is offline  
Old 01-13-15, 06:09 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Work in Asia, now based in Vienna, VA
Posts: 1,758
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 54 Post(s)
Liked 35 Times in 23 Posts
Complete with a La Pree 3-pulley RD!

I also agree that this should not be refinished. Bad for your pocket, bad for the bike.

I'm not in the market, but it IS my size and you isn't that far away. . .

But some fresh bar tape and fresh cables would bring much better ROI.

More photos, please.
__________________
1959 Hilton Wrigley Connoisseur (my favorite!)
1963 Hetchins Mountain King
1971 Gitane Tour de France (original owner)
* 1971 Gitane Super Corsa (crashed)
* rebuilt as upright cruiser
1971 Gitane Super Corsa #2 (sweet replacement)
1980 Ritchey Road Touring (The Grail Bike)
1982 Tom Ritchey Everest
(replacing stolen 1981 TR Everest custom)
1982 Tom Ritchey McKinley (touring pickup truck)
1985 ALAN Record (Glued & Screwed. A gift.)
LeicaLad is offline  
Old 01-13-15, 06:41 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Chombi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,128

Bikes: 1986 Alan Record Carbonio, 1985 Vitus Plus Carbone 7, 1984 Peugeot PSV, 1972 Line Seeker, 1986(est.) Medici Aerodynamic (Project), 1985(est.) Peugeot PY10FC

Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 150 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 34 Times in 27 Posts
I wish people will quit being so afraid of re-paints, especailly when the original finish is really tatty already.
Anyway, a lot of bikes in the past had really bad paint to start with, especially Italian bikes with their nototrious "Quick release" paints and graphics in the 80's. Heck, I remember seeing enough un-built Italian framesets in bike dealerships literally raining paint, decal and and sometimes even chrome chips on the dealership floors from the wall and ceiling hooks they are hanging from.
As long as the paint color and graphics are matched perfectly, I don't really see the problem with re-painting C&V bikes. You'd be doing the bike a big favor anyway especially when it comes to stopping /controlling any corrosion on the frame that might have already started.
Sure it's not original finish, but what's the point when the original really sucked to start with....
Just my 2 cents.....
Chombi is offline  
Old 01-13-15, 08:58 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
IcySmooth52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Portland, ME
Posts: 1,620
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I am doing the re-paint myself, and I am a professional bicycle mechanic and have done re-paints before. I'm not looking to turn over a profit, despite paying $200. I'm looking to make myself a relaxed roadie for a nice day ride instead of a "lets top my last average speed on my route" ride. That's my Lapierre Xelius and Trek T1.

The bike did have touches of rust inside and out, and I could simply get a matching touch-up paint to cover what I've sanded off. (I've already treated the inside with rust removal, then protectant.) I plan to use a body filler for one or two parts, and then simply use a filler primer before the red. Next will be decals, then a clear coat. Also something of 'friction pieces/washers' on the stays to keep from the inevitable scratches and prevent ANY axle slippage. (I've done it before).

Holdsworth wants to see my work when it's all done! (Who gave me the decal images for printing). Her name will be "British Steel" which is a play off of Judas Priest, just like Laya by Eric Clapton for my Lapierre. I'm sure she'll be more valuable to me than her dollars worth. :-)
IcySmooth52 is offline  
Old 01-14-15, 12:24 PM
  #8  
Bianchi Goddess
 
Bianchigirll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 27,846

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

Mentioned: 192 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2926 Post(s)
Liked 2,921 Times in 1,489 Posts
My only issues concerning a repaint is some one taking a bike like this and sinking money and effort into a paint job thinking they can add $XXX.00s to the value of the then restored bike.

My other big issue is people who knowingly or unknowingly, surely with the best intentions, repaint a bike and fail to put the correct decals and frame stickers back on thereby losing the identity of the bike.

If the frame needs a repaint and it is for personal pleasure not perceived increase in value then go for it.
__________________
One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Old 01-14-15, 01:15 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
IcySmooth52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Portland, ME
Posts: 1,620
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
My other big issue is people who knowingly or unknowingly, surely with the best intentions, repaint a bike and fail to put the correct decals and frame stickers back on thereby losing the identity of the bike.
Lol! I have the exact decals from Holdsworth.

Of course not these exact images, but actually .pdf in the exact size they'll be printed so no scaling is necessary.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
Holdsworth DT.jpg (30.0 KB, 56 views)
File Type: jpg
Holdsworth HT.jpg (26.5 KB, 55 views)

Last edited by IcySmooth52; 01-14-15 at 01:23 PM. Reason: Typo
IcySmooth52 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
WGB
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
7
09-24-19 08:05 AM
sloar
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
9
11-20-16 12:35 PM
North Coast Joe
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
19
08-04-14 06:31 PM
wlk
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
2
07-16-12 08:14 PM
wagon.
Classic and Vintage Bicycles: Whats it Worth? Appraisals.
5
04-01-12 08:29 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.