Miyata Eighty SE
01-18-15, 01:39 AM
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Miyata Eighty SE
im trying to make this bike come back to life is it completely dead?
i found this bad boy at a local garage sale and was hoping if i can make it run again.
here are some pictures of it
https://imgur.com/a/GZxbC
i found this bad boy at a local garage sale and was hoping if i can make it run again.
here are some pictures of it
https://imgur.com/a/GZxbC
01-18-15, 01:50 AM
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Not completely dead but do note that it is a very low end bike and has all the hallmarks of it:
Riveted steel crankset
Turkey levers
Stem shifters
Steel rims
Claw hanger rear derailleur
Clamp seatpost
Solid axles
Etc etc. It is a decent bike to learn how to fix if you'd like to go that route but in terms of money you'd be upside down on it once you add up what you need to do with the bike pretty quickly and some of the components (rusty cranks, rear derailleur) look like they might be toast.
Riveted steel crankset
Turkey levers
Stem shifters
Steel rims
Claw hanger rear derailleur
Clamp seatpost
Solid axles
Etc etc. It is a decent bike to learn how to fix if you'd like to go that route but in terms of money you'd be upside down on it once you add up what you need to do with the bike pretty quickly and some of the components (rusty cranks, rear derailleur) look like they might be toast.
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01-18-15, 08:22 AM
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I've had good luck de-rusting steel frames and steel components with Oxalic acid. However, do not use it on aluminum components.
01-18-15, 10:38 PM
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It's a Miyata. Frame is valuable. Looks like something I would bring home. First thing I would do is completely disassemble the entire thing. Get a clean empty steel paint can. Roll the chain into a tight ring & place in bottom of can. Put the freewheel right on top of the chain. Throw both derailers & brakes in there. Throw the bottom bracket in. Cover with a 1-1/2 liters of diesel. Put the lid on tight & shake it up. Let it soak.
Get rid of the crappy steel wheels & buy new alloy wheels, tires, tubes, rim tape on-line $200. New cheapo Bell cables $8. New chain $20. Vinyl seat with springs $20. Brake pads, handlebar tape, & whatever $25. Wire brush the **** out of everything in the paint can. Kitty litter tray $10. Safety glasses $10. Nitrile Gloves $10. Rags $10. Now you got about $400 into a bike that's only gonna go for $300 on a good day.
It's a hobby. You can always donate the bike to Goodwill & get an amazing tax write off. Ride it first.
Be good. Have fun.
Get rid of the crappy steel wheels & buy new alloy wheels, tires, tubes, rim tape on-line $200. New cheapo Bell cables $8. New chain $20. Vinyl seat with springs $20. Brake pads, handlebar tape, & whatever $25. Wire brush the **** out of everything in the paint can. Kitty litter tray $10. Safety glasses $10. Nitrile Gloves $10. Rags $10. Now you got about $400 into a bike that's only gonna go for $300 on a good day.
It's a hobby. You can always donate the bike to Goodwill & get an amazing tax write off. Ride it first.
Be good. Have fun.
01-18-15, 11:27 PM
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-1 ^
Free doesn't always mean worthwhile throwing money at it. The subject bike would be worth $100 +/- in clean rideable condition. Low end Miyata bike frames are high tensile steel, functional but not so desirable from a performance viewpoint. Heavy and found on most entry level bikes.
nevertheless, if you desire to make it rideable, investigate mytenspeeds.com
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01-19-15, 10:05 AM
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+1 ^
-1 ^
Free doesn't always mean worthwhile throwing money at it. The subject bike would be worth $100 +/- in clean rideable condition. Low end Miyata bike frames are high tensile steel, functional but not so desirable from a performance viewpoint. Heavy and found on most entry level bikes.
nevertheless, if you desire to make it rideable, investigate mytenspeed.com
-1 ^
Free doesn't always mean worthwhile throwing money at it. The subject bike would be worth $100 +/- in clean rideable condition. Low end Miyata bike frames are high tensile steel, functional but not so desirable from a performance viewpoint. Heavy and found on most entry level bikes.
nevertheless, if you desire to make it rideable, investigate mytenspeed.com
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01-19-15, 10:12 AM
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i was wondering if these parts can fit into this miyata
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For $275 + labor, figure $400 total, to end up with a $125 finished bike.
01-19-15, 12:16 PM
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NO! You don't have a braze on for the FD. You have a freewheel hub, which won't accommodate a 9 speed setup. You would need to buy new wheels, minimally $100 for a new front and rear. Add $25 for a HG cassette. You would need to spread the frame to accommodate the wider hub.
For $275 + labor, figure $400 total, to end up with a $125 finished bike.
For $275 + labor, figure $400 total, to end up with a $125 finished bike.
thanks for letting me know =] will these wheels work?
also i cant seem to find the specs for this bike is there anyway to find what type of groupset or parts this bike runs on?
01-19-15, 01:29 PM
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I think you would be best off using that bike as a "throw down" or a "utility" bike.
You can throw all the expensive parts you want at it all day, every day. and it will still be an inexpensive bike.
As the saying goes: "you can put lipstick on a pig, but at the end of the day, it's still a pig". As someone else already pointed out, putting $300 wheels onto a $50 bike will not yield a $250. You will still only have a $50 (or may be $75 bike if you're lucky) bike.
Clean it, grease the bearings, true the wheels, replace whatever is broken with reasonably price parts, AND go ride it.
Use that bike when you are planning on riding places where a valuable bike would be at risk of being stolen. Ride it where you can't lock it, and have to drop the bike in front of a store, or on someone's lawn. Lock it if you can, knowing that people steal whatever they can that's available.
Craigslist or a bike Coop, or bargain basement eBay is where you should be shopping for parts for that bike. Last year I bought two sets of brane new Nasbar 700C wheels in the original boxes (with some inner tubes and brake pads thrown in) for $20 total. Got them from a Craigslist Seller, and didn't even have to bargain. You should be able to find a nice set of used wheels for $25-$50 if you wait and watch on Craigslist. Unless the wheels already on the bike are hopelessly bent, you can ride on them for now. If they are hopeless (make sure someone with experience checks them) you can use them to practice truing wheels.
There are always plenty of donor bikes and frames on Craigslist (for $10-$50) that you could buy to get the parts you need to restore your frame. Or, you might find a nicer bike in better condition that you could put your wheels on.
You can throw all the expensive parts you want at it all day, every day. and it will still be an inexpensive bike.
As the saying goes: "you can put lipstick on a pig, but at the end of the day, it's still a pig". As someone else already pointed out, putting $300 wheels onto a $50 bike will not yield a $250. You will still only have a $50 (or may be $75 bike if you're lucky) bike.
Clean it, grease the bearings, true the wheels, replace whatever is broken with reasonably price parts, AND go ride it.
Use that bike when you are planning on riding places where a valuable bike would be at risk of being stolen. Ride it where you can't lock it, and have to drop the bike in front of a store, or on someone's lawn. Lock it if you can, knowing that people steal whatever they can that's available.
Craigslist or a bike Coop, or bargain basement eBay is where you should be shopping for parts for that bike. Last year I bought two sets of brane new Nasbar 700C wheels in the original boxes (with some inner tubes and brake pads thrown in) for $20 total. Got them from a Craigslist Seller, and didn't even have to bargain. You should be able to find a nice set of used wheels for $25-$50 if you wait and watch on Craigslist. Unless the wheels already on the bike are hopelessly bent, you can ride on them for now. If they are hopeless (make sure someone with experience checks them) you can use them to practice truing wheels.
There are always plenty of donor bikes and frames on Craigslist (for $10-$50) that you could buy to get the parts you need to restore your frame. Or, you might find a nicer bike in better condition that you could put your wheels on.
01-19-15, 02:01 PM
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I think you would be best off using that bike as a "throw down" or a "utility" bike.
You can throw all the expensive parts you want at it all day, every day. and it will still be an inexpensive bike.
As the saying goes: "you can put lipstick on a pig, but at the end of the day, it's still a pig". As someone else already pointed out, putting $300 wheels onto a $50 bike will not yield a $250. You will still only have a $50 (or may be $75 bike if you're lucky) bike.
Clean it, grease the bearings, true the wheels, replace whatever is broken with reasonably price parts, AND go ride it.
Use that bike when you are planning on riding places where a valuable bike would be at risk of being stolen. Ride it where you can't lock it, and have to drop the bike in front of a store, or on someone's lawn. Lock it if you can, knowing that people steal whatever they can that's available.
Craigslist or a bike Coop, or bargain basement eBay is where you should be shopping for parts for that bike. Last year I bought two sets of brane new Nasbar 700C wheels in the original boxes (with some inner tubes and brake pads thrown in) for $20 total. Got them from a Craigslist Seller, and didn't even have to bargain. You should be able to find a nice set of used wheels for $25-$50 if you wait and watch on Craigslist. Unless the wheels already on the bike are hopelessly bent, you can ride on them for now. If they are hopeless (make sure someone with experience checks them) you can use them to practice truing wheels.
There are always plenty of donor bikes and frames on Craigslist (for $10-$50) that you could buy to get the parts you need to restore your frame. Or, you might find a nicer bike in better condition that you could put your wheels on.
You can throw all the expensive parts you want at it all day, every day. and it will still be an inexpensive bike.
As the saying goes: "you can put lipstick on a pig, but at the end of the day, it's still a pig". As someone else already pointed out, putting $300 wheels onto a $50 bike will not yield a $250. You will still only have a $50 (or may be $75 bike if you're lucky) bike.
Clean it, grease the bearings, true the wheels, replace whatever is broken with reasonably price parts, AND go ride it.
Use that bike when you are planning on riding places where a valuable bike would be at risk of being stolen. Ride it where you can't lock it, and have to drop the bike in front of a store, or on someone's lawn. Lock it if you can, knowing that people steal whatever they can that's available.
Craigslist or a bike Coop, or bargain basement eBay is where you should be shopping for parts for that bike. Last year I bought two sets of brane new Nasbar 700C wheels in the original boxes (with some inner tubes and brake pads thrown in) for $20 total. Got them from a Craigslist Seller, and didn't even have to bargain. You should be able to find a nice set of used wheels for $25-$50 if you wait and watch on Craigslist. Unless the wheels already on the bike are hopelessly bent, you can ride on them for now. If they are hopeless (make sure someone with experience checks them) you can use them to practice truing wheels.
There are always plenty of donor bikes and frames on Craigslist (for $10-$50) that you could buy to get the parts you need to restore your frame. Or, you might find a nicer bike in better condition that you could put your wheels on.
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couldnt find any info on this bike all i know is that its a miyata eighty se...... idk what year or what specs it has i even looked at the catalog and found nothing, guess this is what happens to low end bikes ;(
01-20-15, 12:27 PM
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I'd lube it and ride it as is as a bad weather bike. As mentioned not worth upgrades.
01-21-15, 07:29 AM
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I own 2 Miyatas and love them, but that bike you have is a very low end bike and your's has a lot of problems that you'll never be able to fix without spending a lot more money and time than the bike's worth. Maybe if you can all the parts you need for free then maybe that would be ok, but a pristine 80 sells for $300, which I think it too high for that bike but whatever.
Instead of going crazy trying to get to work right, sell for cheap and take the money you would spend on that group for $150 plus maybe $25 for the bike, plus $300 for wheels and try to find another nice used bike for $475.
Instead of going crazy trying to get to work right, sell for cheap and take the money you would spend on that group for $150 plus maybe $25 for the bike, plus $300 for wheels and try to find another nice used bike for $475.
01-21-15, 08:02 AM
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^ Must be in Hong Kong dollars.
Up for a week at $100 on ebay, albeit local pickup, no takers even at $100.
Miyata Road Bike Touring Eighty SE | eBay
Up for a week at $100 on ebay, albeit local pickup, no takers even at $100.
Miyata Road Bike Touring Eighty SE | eBay
01-21-15, 11:01 AM
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^ Must be in Hong Kong dollars.
Up for a week at $100 on ebay, albeit local pickup, no takers even at $100.
Miyata Road Bike Touring Eighty SE | eBay
Up for a week at $100 on ebay, albeit local pickup, no takers even at $100.
Miyata Road Bike Touring Eighty SE | eBay
01-21-15, 12:04 PM
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MINT- MEN'S- MIYATA-EIGHTY-SE- ROAD BIKE I would never pay that much for that bike but there are suckers out there.
Long Island Larry, is the Nassau County CL equivalent of BBC on ebay or Bicycle Blue Book when it comes to pricing.
01-21-15, 12:23 PM
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Not completely dead but do note that it is a very low end bike and has all the hallmarks of it:
Riveted steel crankset
Turkey levers
Stem shifters
Steel rims
Claw hanger rear derailleur
Clamp seatpost
Solid axles
Etc etc. It is a decent bike to learn how to fix if you'd like to go that route but in terms of money you'd be upside down on it once you add up what you need to do with the bike pretty quickly and some of the components (rusty cranks, rear derailleur) look like they might be toast.
Riveted steel crankset
Turkey levers
Stem shifters
Steel rims
Claw hanger rear derailleur
Clamp seatpost
Solid axles
Etc etc. It is a decent bike to learn how to fix if you'd like to go that route but in terms of money you'd be upside down on it once you add up what you need to do with the bike pretty quickly and some of the components (rusty cranks, rear derailleur) look like they might be toast.
Bottom line is you could fix this bike up cheap if you want and I think you may enjoy it also.
01-21-15, 02:18 PM
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^ Must be in Hong Kong dollars.
Up for a week at $100 on ebay, albeit local pickup, no takers even at $100.
Miyata Road Bike Touring Eighty SE | eBay
Up for a week at $100 on ebay, albeit local pickup, no takers even at $100.
Miyata Road Bike Touring Eighty SE | eBay
Probably a nice rider.
That's a new or virtually unused (lettering/decal on sides of seat peel off when ridden) Avocet M30 gel seat on there that sold for $30-$40 alone, when new. Those seats are heavy, but very comfortable on long rides. I have four of them myself on my Keepers (that I move from bike to bike when I sell one).
Take away the value of the seat (which is no-longer made), and you're only paying $60-$70 for the rest of the bike.
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