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My friend is selling a "70s" Schwinn World Tour for $125. Is this a fair deal?

Old 02-15-15, 05:06 PM
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My friend is selling a "70s" Schwinn World Tour for $125. Is this a fair deal?

I've really got the itch for some classic steel. I'm under the impression that the World Tour is on the low end of Schwinn models.

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Old 02-15-15, 05:12 PM
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It's a rideable bike for $125, even if it were worth $100, would you dicker with a friend over $25 instead of just paying him?
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It's a rideable bike for $125, even if it were worth $100, would you dicker with a friend over $25 instead of just paying him?
That's not the point of this post at all. It's not about dickering with a friend, it's about if I can get a better bike for the money then I'd rather do that.
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You can get a better bike for $125, but it might take some work and patience.
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It looks to me like it is a 1985 World Sport.


Schwinn 1985 Lightweight Bicycles -- World Sport
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Originally Posted by cb400bill View Post
It looks to me like it is a 1985 World Sport.


Schwinn 1985 Lightweight Bicycles -- World Sport
Hmmm, that makes it more attractive. I love chrome-moly.
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Is it the right size for you? You need to be over 6'1" to ride that frame. It's clean, but your friend is not cutting you a deal. Probable FMV in most market for one in good nic is about $100. Can you get a better bike for $125? First it depends on the locale you live in, but yes, if you are patient, know what to look for, and can do some minor work, like maybe tire changes and cable replacement.

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Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
Is it the right size for you? You need to be over 6'1" to ride that frame. It's clean, but your friend is not cutting you a deal. Probable FMV in most market for one in good nic is about $100. Can you get a better bike for $125? First it depends on the locale you live in, but yes, if you are patient, know what to look for, and can do some minor work, like maybe tire changes and cable replacement.
Yeah, I rode it and my leg reach was fine (I have long legs) but the frame itself was a bit too big for me at 6'0".

She's actually got a Peugot Record Du Monde that's in *gorgeous* condition that I'm going to help her replace cables on then I'll buy it for $150. It fits me a bit better.
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Originally Posted by willydstyle View Post
She's actually got a Peugot Record Du Monde that's in *gorgeous* condition that I'm going to help her replace cables on then I'll buy it for $150. It fits me a bit better.
Like wrk101 mentioned above, there is no "Record du Monde" model. That's French for "World Record" and Peugeot put that decal on a number of bikes. The likeliest bet, based on sheer number of them out there, is that your friend's Peugeot is a UO-8 or similar. I have a UO-8 and like it a lot as an around-town bike, but I had to replace a lot of parts to get it there. There are a ton of potential gotchas:

  • If the bike is older than the 1980s, the bottom bracket, headset, stem, and handlebar are French sized/threaded. Functionally, that's not a problem, but replacement parts are scarce and can be expensive.
  • Peugeot used Simplex derailleurs with delrin (plastic) parts on 1970s UO-8's. When new, they worked fine. But as they've aged, the delrin parts have become more brittle. The front derailleur clamp is notorious for cracking. My UO-8's rear derailleur body was cracked, as was a derailleur pulley. Some may differ in opinion, but if I pick up a UO-8 with plastic derailleurs, I'm replacing them even if they haven't failed yet.
  • UO-8's typically came with steel Rigida rims. They work just fine, but braking performance is bad, especially when wet. The rims also have a textured surface, so braking is loud.
  • Many UO-8's were equipped with an Ava stem that has become known as the "death stem" because of its reputation for cracking and sudden failure. I don't know if its reputation has been exaggerated, but I don't want to find out the hard way.


I don't mean to talk you out of a UO-8, if that's in fact what the bike is. I just don't want you to be surprised at the work and money you might have to put into it.
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Originally Posted by SkyDog75 View Post
Like wrk101 mentioned above, there is no "Record du Monde" model. That's French for "World Record" and Peugeot put that decal on a number of bikes. The likeliest bet, based on sheer number of them out there, is that your friend's Peugeot is a UO-8 or similar. I have a UO-8 and like it a lot as an around-town bike, but I had to replace a lot of parts to get it there. There are a ton of potential gotchas:

  • If the bike is older than the 1980s, the bottom bracket, headset, stem, and handlebar are French sized/threaded. Functionally, that's not a problem, but replacement parts are scarce and can be expensive.
  • Peugeot used Simplex derailleurs with delrin (plastic) parts on 1970s UO-8's. When new, they worked fine. But as they've aged, the delrin parts have become more brittle. The front derailleur clamp is notorious for cracking. My UO-8's rear derailleur body was cracked, as was a derailleur pulley. Some may differ in opinion, but if I pick up a UO-8 with plastic derailleurs, I'm replacing them even if they haven't failed yet.
  • UO-8's typically came with steel Rigida rims. They work just fine, but braking performance is bad, especially when wet. The rims also have a textured surface, so braking is loud.
  • Many UO-8's were equipped with an Ava stem that has become known as the "death stem" because of its reputation for cracking and sudden failure. I don't know if its reputation has been exaggerated, but I don't want to find out the hard way.


I don't mean to talk you out of a UO-8, if that's in fact what the bike is. I just don't want you to be surprised at the work and money you might have to put into it.
Thanks for the advice.



That's the bike. From a bit of googling it seems like UO8 is indeed the model. It's in really super condition, and is way lighter than I would expect a steel bike of that era to be.
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Originally Posted by willydstyle View Post
From a bit of googling it seems like UO8 is indeed the model. It's in really super condition, and is way lighter than I would expect a steel bike of that era to be.
That's not a UO-8. It's newer (early '80s) and much nicer. If it fit me, I'd buy it for $150.

Based on the half-chrome fork, forged dropouts, and the green color, I'd guess it might be a PFN-10. You can check out the 1981 Peugeot catalog and compare for yourself:

https://cyclespeugeot.com/PDFs/1981pdf.pdf
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Originally Posted by SkyDog75 View Post
That's not a UO-8. It's newer (early '80s) and much nicer. If it fit me, I'd buy it for $150.

Based on the half-chrome fork, forged dropouts, and the green color, I'd guess it might be a PFN-10. You can check out the 1981 Peugeot catalog and compare for yourself:

https://cyclespeugeot.com/PDFs/1981pdf.pdf
Haha, I'm learning so much today. I guess Peugeot found a "look" they liked and just used it for all their bikes. Anyways, yeah, I'mma help her fix it up and buy it. Thanks everyone for your feedback.
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Old 02-15-15, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SkyDog75 View Post
That's not a UO-8. It's newer (early '80s) and much nicer. If it fit me, I'd buy it for $150.

Based on the half-chrome fork, forged dropouts, and the green color, I'd guess it might be a PFN-10. You can check out the 1981 Peugeot catalog and compare for yourself:

https://cyclespeugeot.com/PDFs/1981pdf.pdf
Looking at it a bit more, does the brown brake hood indicate that it's more likely the PBN-10, because it's available in the same color. Either way, is this a bike where $150 is about right, or should I be offering her more for it, considering the great condition?
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$150 is about right. It is a solid, mid level bike from the '80s. Looks in good condition.

Why are you fixing it up for her and then hoping to buy it? Why aren't you buying it as is and then fixing it up for yourself? Doesn't make sense to me.
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$150 is about right. It is a solid, mid level bike from the '80s. Looks in good condition.

Why are you fixing it up for her and then hoping to buy it? Why aren't you buying it as is and then fixing it up for yourself? Doesn't make sense to me.
I'm not fixing it up for her. It basically just needs pedals and new cables, and I'm a nub when it comes to any sort of bike repair, so I want her to show me how to do it.
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Originally Posted by willydstyle View Post
Looking at it a bit more, does the brown brake hood indicate that it's more likely the PBN-10, because it's available in the same color.
No, because the dropouts on the PBN-10 are stamped sheet metal, not forged.
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Beautiful bike, but your photo sucks. Take it outside and reshoot. Your friend must be a fairly tall woman, nice.

Nevertheless, that green metallic Peugeot is a GREAT find. Looks like a Vitus tubing decal over the shifters? I think @SkyDog75 nailed it as a 1981 PFN10.

Below FMV for a rider too. Enjoy it!

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Originally Posted by oddjob2 View Post
Beautiful bike, but your photo sucks. Take it outside and reshoot.
While you're at it, flip the bike around so you're taking a photo from the drive side. Seeing the derailleurs gives people more information to work with when identifying the model. That Peugeot is lovely- quite a big step up from that World Sport!
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