Your thoughts on 85 or 86 Bianchi Mondiale celeste?
02-26-15, 10:39 AM
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Your thoughts on 85 or 86 Bianchi Mondiale celeste?
I had this bike way back in my teens and it served me well. After I got my first car I did not ride it much and it was just collecting dust year after year. Last weekend cleaning up the garage I dug up alot of vintage stuff from car stereo, car parts, and the Bianchi Modiale.
It is dusty, dirty, neglected, tubulars are flat but still in one piece. The paint is showing its age of almost 30 years lol!
What puzzles me is I cannot find where the serial number is? Also why the dropouts are Bianchi and not campagnolo or gipieme? The columbus tubing is not SL or SLX but columbus special which dates back before SL or SLX was available.
It is dusty, dirty, neglected, tubulars are flat but still in one piece. The paint is showing its age of almost 30 years lol!
What puzzles me is I cannot find where the serial number is? Also why the dropouts are Bianchi and not campagnolo or gipieme? The columbus tubing is not SL or SLX but columbus special which dates back before SL or SLX was available.
02-26-15, 01:06 PM
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With Bianchi Special tubing made by Columbus it would be a an '85, the '86 Mondiale had a SL/SP mix tubeset. The Special tubing was made for Bianchi by Columbus so it doesn't really predate SL, but was one of Bianchi's many ways of building their SUperSet frame in a cost effective manor, like Bianchi branded dropouts rather than buying CampI ones.
For the serial number try looking under the bottom bracket shell or the set lug area.
Sounds like it will need a complete overhaul and some new tubulars.
Any pics?
For the serial number try looking under the bottom bracket shell or the set lug area.
Sounds like it will need a complete overhaul and some new tubulars.
Any pics?
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Others but still loved; '80 Batavus Professional, '87 Cornelo, '?? Jane Doe (still on the drawing board), '90ish Haro Escape SLX Bertoni "Speckled Trout"
02-26-15, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll
With Bianchi Special tubing made by Columbus it would be a an '85, the '86 Mondiale had a SL/SP mix tubeset. The Special tubing was made for Bianchi by Columbus so it doesn't really predate SL, but was one of Bianchi's many ways of building their SUperSet frame in a cost effective manor, like Bianchi branded dropouts rather than buying CampI ones.
For the serial number try looking under the bottom bracket shell or the set lug area.
Sounds like it will need a complete overhaul and some new tubulars.
Any pics?
For the serial number try looking under the bottom bracket shell or the set lug area.
Sounds like it will need a complete overhaul and some new tubulars.
Any pics?
02-26-15, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by packardbell
I 'll take some pictures tonight but don't flame me for leaving it to collect dust, spider webs and whatnot.
Make sure to take the pictures from the drive side so the components are visible. Closeups are useful too.
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02-27-15, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by J.Oxley
No matter what it looks like, we've seen worse.
Make sure to take the pictures from the drive side so the components are visible. Closeups are useful too.
Make sure to take the pictures from the drive side so the components are visible. Closeups are useful too.
02-27-15, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TakingMyTime
Well, I guess we can't way you didn't provide detailed pictures.... Whew!
02-27-15, 10:45 AM
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Sorry couldn't resist. Nice bike that will be great with a little work
02-27-15, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rgver
Sorry couldn't resist. Nice bike that will be great with a little work
haha, taking the Bianchi out of retirement.
02-28-15, 11:54 AM
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That poor bike did you ever clean it? The frame certainly looks like a Mondiale or a Campione frame. Most of the Italian frame used the Special tubing that year but only those two sported the chrome stay. The RD and chain rings look to have been replaced at some point with Nuovo Record rather the original Super Record.
This will likely clean up pretty well but would take a lot of time and elbow grease. First ting I would do is take it to the carwash and give it good scrubbing (I do not have a outside hose if you do that is much better) Some degreaser like Simple Green on the hubs, derailleurs, brakesm BB shell area well almost everywhere. Scrubb with a soft long bristled brush, I use an bottle brush, scrub it good and rinse. Use a good liquid car wash to wash the frame with a soft cloth or sponge.
Remove all the components breaking them down as you go and clean and re assemble them. remove the BB and HS and clean them. Then really clean and detail the frame and give it a good waxing.
Reassemble with new cables, bar tape, brake hoods, chain and maybe freewheel. I if the HS is bad you might be able to source new parts off a place like ebay or the few dwindling suppliers who have older campy stuff in stock. If the BB is bad you may have to replace the whole thing which may mean getting a Phil Wood cartridge type (around $100+/-)
This could be a real head turner but it is going to take a lot of love and hard work.
This will likely clean up pretty well but would take a lot of time and elbow grease. First ting I would do is take it to the carwash and give it good scrubbing (I do not have a outside hose if you do that is much better) Some degreaser like Simple Green on the hubs, derailleurs, brakesm BB shell area well almost everywhere. Scrubb with a soft long bristled brush, I use an bottle brush, scrub it good and rinse. Use a good liquid car wash to wash the frame with a soft cloth or sponge.
Remove all the components breaking them down as you go and clean and re assemble them. remove the BB and HS and clean them. Then really clean and detail the frame and give it a good waxing.
Reassemble with new cables, bar tape, brake hoods, chain and maybe freewheel. I if the HS is bad you might be able to source new parts off a place like ebay or the few dwindling suppliers who have older campy stuff in stock. If the BB is bad you may have to replace the whole thing which may mean getting a Phil Wood cartridge type (around $100+/-)
This could be a real head turner but it is going to take a lot of love and hard work.
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Others but still loved; '80 Batavus Professional, '87 Cornelo, '?? Jane Doe (still on the drawing board), '90ish Haro Escape SLX Bertoni "Speckled Trout"
Bianchis '90 Proto, '90 Campione del Fausto Giamondi Specialisma Italiano Mundo, '91 Boarala 'cross, '93 Project 3, '86 Volpe, '97 Ti Megatube, '93 Reparto Corse SBX
Others but still loved; '80 Batavus Professional, '87 Cornelo, '?? Jane Doe (still on the drawing board), '90ish Haro Escape SLX Bertoni "Speckled Trout"
02-28-15, 07:42 PM
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It's actually a good thing that she was put away with oil on the exterior parts. Rather than risk messing something up if you are not a competent and experienced bike mechanic, I would recommend that you spray and wipe all over with WD-40 to get the gunk and dirt off, don't change anything, and let the new owner do the rebuild. It's a fine bike; I'd guess $1,000 as is, +200 more if cleaned up, or hypothetically, if perfect, $1,800.
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I like that.
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Personally give the condition I think $1000 'as is' rather ambitious especially since the SR derailleur and chainrings are missing. Considering it is a project and needs at the very least tires to even make it rideable much closer to $500.
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I should add that my estimates are ebay prices on a good day. Craigs list local sales, if you can find a local buyer knowledgeable enough to appreciate what you have, divide by 2.
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this was my fourth bike that I bought so there is quite some sentimental value and childhood memories with her.
First was a cambio rino, second colnago, and third marinoni.
First was a cambio rino, second colnago, and third marinoni.
