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Univega Viva Sport- $185 to use as commuter

Old 03-16-15, 09:16 AM
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Univega Viva Sport- $185 to use as commuter

Hello,

I'm meeting a seller to check out a Univega Viva Sport, year unknown. I know plenty about bike mechanics, but not so much about the value of specific models, I figured I should do a little research beforehand. I didn't turn up much on Blue Book, Bikepedia, etc, so I figured I should ask here.

The ad mentions new tires, tubes and handlebar tape, and states that it's in excellent condition and recently tuned up. Here are some pictures:

https://images.craigslist.org/00f0f_a...T5_600x450.jpg
https://images.craigslist.org/00H0H_2...Pi_600x450.jpg
https://images.craigslist.org/01515_3...IB_600x450.jpg
https://images.craigslist.org/00n0n_3...ZC_600x450.jpg

The seller is asking $185. Assuming everything is in good shape as advertised, is this a fair price?

As a secondary question, I know this is a vintage bike board, but in your opinion is this bike worth it for someone who doesn't really care about collectability or snazziness? I'm going to be primarily using this as a commuter bike, and while I do like the way it looks I care much more about function. If this bike is worth the price because it's old or rare, but a comparably good newer bike would cost less, then I may want to pass.

Thanks!
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Old 03-16-15, 09:30 AM
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Not a great price but you certainly won't find a newer bike that's any good at this price point. The new tires are a real plus since they nearly always need to be changed out when buying a bike. The bike is also in good cosmetic shape which is a plus as is the new handlebar tape. The bike has been sitting on CL for 8 days: Vintage Univega Viva Sport, 12-Speed

I think the price is OK for this bike but it's at the high end of what the bike is worth. It looks like the S has taken care of this bike. It has an inexpensive swaged crank which tells you it's a lower end univega but still a nice bike. Figure you will have to overhaul the bike and replace all the cables and housing.

I'd try to buy it for $150 but I'd consider paying this much for a commuter esp. if decent vintage bikes for commuting are hard to find in your market.

Alternatively you could look for a vintage mtb for commuting. They make fine commuters. I don't know if this will fit but it's half the price, Trek Mountain Bike
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My first vintage bike purchased about a month ago was a red Univega Viva Sport 63cm and has Shimano 600 componets but with down tube shifters. I paid $90 for mine. But I had to put new tires and tubes on it. Univega's are awesome bikes! Everybody has an opinion...$150 sounds about right.
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Thanks for the replies! For the record, I know I'm not going to get a great bike for less than $200- I'm just betting I can do a lot better used on CL than new from Walmart. All I'm looking for is something that fits and that isn't going to cost me a ton of time and money in repairs.

I have been looking mostly at ~$100 90s mountain bikes and hybrids, but have had trouble finding one that isn't in dubious condition and fits me well (I'm 6'4", so this can be tricky)! This seems better on that front, but I can't tell if the slightly higher price is because it's slightly higher quality (though still low-end) or just because it's cool looking.

I'll try to talk the seller down when we meet- thanks for pointing out that the post has been up a while, that might be a good bargaining chip. I'm sure I could find a better bargain if I were more patient, but spring has hit very suddenly here in RI and I want to get riding...
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Based on your height, 80s/90s mtbs are brutal to find. 22" and 23" mtbs are rare, at least within 400mi or me!

The Univega is not high end, but it also isn't junk. Its a very well made bike, actually. The history of Univega and its owner is fascinating, if you find yourself wanting to know more about the bike and brand.
It was made by a very good company over in Japan- Miyata.

If the frame is in good condition, the components are solid, and the wheels are true- it would be a workable commuter.
Yes that is a little high on the price and if you went to sell it you would probably have to sell it for less than you bought- but that's how most all products are in life. If you buy it for $175, use it for a year and sell it for $125, You just commuted for $50. That's how I would try to view it.
And in that year, you could figure out what you like and dislike about this bike and general design and look for something that fits your needs better.

The bike looks like it would fit you, generally speaking- if it doesn't though, then no price is worth buying as you will hate commuting on it.
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Originally Posted by josephort View Post
Thanks for the replies! For the record, I know I'm not going to get a great bike for less than $200- I'm just betting I can do a lot better used on CL than new from Walmart. All I'm looking for is something that fits and that isn't going to cost me a ton of time and money in repairs.

I have been looking mostly at ~$100 90s mountain bikes and hybrids, but have had trouble finding one that isn't in dubious condition and fits me well (I'm 6'4", so this can be tricky)! This seems better on that front, but I can't tell if the slightly higher price is because it's slightly higher quality (though still low-end) or just because it's cool looking.

I'll try to talk the seller down when we meet- thanks for pointing out that the post has been up a while, that might be a good bargaining chip. I'm sure I could find a better bargain if I were more patient, but spring has hit very suddenly here in RI and I want to get riding...
You have received some good advice so far...and I concur with it!

As for any additional...go/look/see/ride...that is really the only way...the price does seem to be a bit high...but...usually negotiating is the word of the day...you arrive with 130 in cash in hand...pull it out and start to walk away...hmmm...sellers change their minds fast (even me!)...
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That's definitely a large size bike. You'll need to stand 6' plus to ride it. Plus, low end Univegas are built like tanks. I'd start at $100 and see what happens next. If seller will meet you in the middle that's about $140. Or else, I'd just save up a few more dollars & try to find something better. Lots of Centurions out there for around $200.
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If you post the craigslist ad itself instead of links to the images we can recommend other bikes in your area that might fit. Nobody's going to snipe this Univega from you :]

It's nice that the consumables like bar tape and tires are new, but I still think this is overpriced. A low-end road bike should be closer to $100 than it is to $200.
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Originally Posted by Clang View Post
If you post the craigslist ad itself instead of links to the images we can recommend other bikes in your area that might fit. Nobody's going to snipe this Univega from you :]
Wasn't worried about sniping- I just didn't know if there was some sort of policy against linking directly to ads. Here's the link:
Vintage Univega Viva Sport, 12-Speed

Thanks for the insight!
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Slim pickings I guess. No picture on the first one, but judging by the stand over height they list, it might be your size. Maybe worth checking out?

[h=2]Vintage Peugeot Bicycles - $180 (Warwick)[/h]Vintage Peugeot Bicycles
Pair of 1974 Peugeot PK-10 road bikes, manufactured in France. Good shape. The Tubing is double-butted Reynolds 501 Chrome-Moly steel, very lightweight. 10 speed derailleur gears. Everything works. The tires are new. These bikes are very responsive and extremely quick. One bike is 35" to top of frame. The other is 31". Will sell separately. $180 each. If you've priced new bikes lately, this is a good deal. CASH ONLY. LOCAL DEALS ONLY. NO SCAMMERS OR SCHEMERS.



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[h=2]Nishiki Royale 12-Speed, 58cm - $125 (Wakefield, RI)[/h]Nishiki Royale 12-Speed, 58cm
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Based on the brake cable routing and headbadge, that's a late '70s low-end Univega. By the mid '80s, the Viva Sport was closer to a midrange -- better frame material (double- or triple butted CrMo tubing and Mangalite fork), better quality components, and Symmetric downtube shifters...
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There is at least one used bike dealer in that Craigslist section that claims to have 30 bikes. Worth looking there.
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The conclusion to this story is that I decided to buy the bike for $150. Maybe I could have found something better for a comparable price, but since I had previously almost no luck even finding a frame that fit well I decided I'd rather start riding now than spend the next two weeks following more tenuous leads.

Thanks for all the help with this one! I probably would have just taken the asking price after my test ride if I hadn't been better informed...
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