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Old 07-25-18, 04:33 PM
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[WTB] [Vintage] Fuji Finest OR Special Road Racer [~56cm?]

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I've been scouring the internet as of late for a pair of bikes that I've apparently fallen in love with, so I thought I'd try my luck and post here as I've seen a few related posts in the past. I'm located in the US and am looking for a Fuji Finest or Fuji Special Road Racer (aka S10-S and S12-S as I understand it). I don't particularly have a specific year or color in mind, but I am looking for something on the better rather than worse side condition wise and I'm ideally searching for something around ~56cm(?) as I have a 31 inch inseam, or 32 inches with shoes! I am also looking for models with both the chrome tipped forks as well as the chrome tipped rear triangle, as well as the "Special Road Racer" wording along the side of the frame for the latter mentioned model.

I don't have a specific price in mind, but that's obviously going to be largely dependent on overall condition anyways, so we can certainly discuss a fair price, or if you have a price already in mind that's fine too. I am definitely okay with shipping and am entirely willing to pay for all related costs. From what I've researched and/or have seen, it seems that most bike shops offer bike packaging services for around ~$70 to ~$100 and it's roughly the same for shipping from anywhere in the continental US with Bike Flights, but if it ends up being substantially more than that we can certainly discuss that as well! I'm more than willing to be financially flexible for the right bike! I'm quite determined to find a bike that I can finally fall in love with!

Thanks for looking! Any questions, comments or offers are more than welcome! And by all means, if you think you have something that I might be interested in but isn't the aforementioned duo, let me know! It's simply the aesthetics of these beauties that I've fallen in love with.
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On the S10 and S12, they made a 21 inch (53cm) and the next size up was a 23 inch (58cm). Google bike inseam, its different than pant inseam, typically a couple of inches longer.
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On the S10 and S12, they made a 21 inch (53cm) and the next size up was a 23 inch (58cm). Google bike inseam, its different than pant inseam, typically a couple of inches longer.
Thanks for the tip! I measured using some of the advice I've found through Google and it seems my inseam is indeed 31", which I suppose makes sense since the best pants that fit me are typically 30". The tricky part with bikes is that their sizing seems to vary by brand and even by model. I'm unsure which sizes I should be looking at when it comes to the S10/S12 or the Finest series? Sellers don't seem to like listing such critical information like stand-over height, it seems! :shrug:

I don't suppose you could recommend which frame sizes I should be looking at with these models? I would assume I could be "relatively comfortable" going up to a snug 32" stand-over height since that's likely where I'd be with shoes on, but I'm not really sure where that puts me as far as frame sizes go. It seems every website says something different when looking at height (I'm 5'11") compared to frame size. I've read that I should be looking at 17"-19" but I've also read 23". I've never worried too much about frame sizing in that past but I wanted to get it a bit closer to 'right' this time around for obvious reasons. It doesn't help that they seem to change from Inches to Centimeters at the flip of a coin...

Anyways, I appreciate any tips and/or advice! Thanks kindly!
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Personally I ignore stand over, as I have short legs for my height, long arms and long torso. So my bikes either have zero standover or negative standover.

17/19 is way, way too small for you, except for a MTB.

2.54cm to an inch.

I compare bike inseam to how Elvis used to wear his pants, up tight, really tight.

I've been using this chart for at least ten years now, Stan (Scooper) posted it. I find it useful for vintage road bikes. I'd guess 23 inch for you.


Personally, I think the Finest is a much nicer bike, but could be pretty hard to find. Nothing wrong with the S12, I'd skip the S10.



Road Bike Sizing by wrk101, on Flickr

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Thanks, internet stranger! I appreciate your help! It looks like I should be looking at 56cm/58cm, which in the case of some vintage roadies like these... 23" unless I'm mistaken?

It's an unfortunate fact that I was not born either shorter or taller than I am! I've seen some genuine showroom quality listings for frames far too small or far too large, but none in my range. :eyeroll: :laugh:

Someday! I'll find her yet.
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I'm the same size, and our ideal frame size is 22". It's fine. I've preferred smaller frames and tend to buy them in 21" size, but I'm pretty sure I could use a 23" frame. You really can go up or down a bit.
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I'm the same size, and our ideal frame size is 22". It's fine. I've preferred smaller frames and tend to buy them in 21" size, but I'm pretty sure I could use a 23" frame. You really can go up or down a bit.
Thanks for the tip! How would the different geometry affect the ride or comfort of the bike? In my mind, it seems like a frame on the smaller side would cause the rider position to be more upright than not? Would there be any other differences between going either up or down in frame size?
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I'm only 5'8" (actually now only 5'7" at 60yo), and have ridden a 23" (58cm) frame Fuji since 1973 since the 21" seemed too cramped - fore-to-aft. despite the lack of stand-over clearance for 'the boys' . I suppose a 22"/56cm would have been better, but Fuji didn't offer that option. Riding that 'too-tall' frame has NOT been a problem in 40+ years! Good luck with finding a S-10S or S-12S , because I'm NOT selling mine that I bought new in 1976! We've been together waaaay to long for me to give up my trusted friend!!!

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I'm not a Fuji expert, but it's my understanding that "Special Road Racer" was their designation for their S-10 and maybe later S-12 entry level bikes. In contrast, the "Finest", and later "Newest" (I hope their marketing guy was well paid ) were both close to top of the line race bikes. Nothing wrong with the S-10 or S-12, but compared to later Japanese bikes, they will be 3-4 lbs heavier, and quite a bit stiffer. The S-10 and S-12 were pretty comparable to a Centurion LeMans, or a Schwinn Le Tour at the time. Again, not bad bikes for what they are, but entry to mid level bikes improved greatly from the mid 70's to the mid 80's
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My above pictured 23" '75 model year Special Road Racer (aka S-10S) weighed in at 26.1 pounds when new. Not too shabby for a Hi-Ten frame. At that weight, it would actually be more comparable to a Schwinn Super LeTour 12.2 that was introduced in '77-ish. Now as equipped with the Pletscher rack, triple crank, bottle cage, Zefal pump, current Araya 27x1 wheelset, etc., my Fuji weighs in at 30.5 pounds according to our digital shipping scale at work.... Fuji's entry-level all-steel bike of the era aka Special Tourer (steel bars, wheels, derailleurs) weighed 34 pounds, bare.
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Thanks for the tip! How would the different geometry affect the ride or comfort of the bike? In my mind, it seems like a frame on the smaller side would cause the rider position to be more upright than not? Would there be any other differences between going either up or down in frame size?
No, on a smaller frame, the handlebars will be lower. The top tube might or might not be shorter, which in theory makes you more upright, but that difference isn't enough to compensate for the lower handlebars. If you like to be more upright, you would lean towards a larger frame.
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Just in case this is helpful... no affiliation...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-83-Fuj...s/253449432811
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You say you are located in the USA but where you are exactly is very relevant for prices. These are not high end bikes and you might end up paying more for shipping than the bike is worth.

Example - https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...43373162652664

Buffalo FB listing Seller wants $141(?). If you were within a few hours you could drive and see for your self. IIRC I bought a Raleigh Super Course from him he advertised for $150 and I paid $125. I bet you will find one searching using Search Tempest or similar.
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I picked an S12-s up a couple of years ago myself. Not light by any standard but nicely built and rode fine. I was playing around and put way too much money into mine making it into a cushy but fast 650b conversion.
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@jamesdak, you didn't waste a thing. That thing is a work of art. What DOES it weigh, anyway?
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@jamesdak, you didn't waste a thing. That thing is a work of art. What DOES it weigh, anyway?
27 lbs 4 ozs.
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27 lbs 4 ozs.
Damn, that's about 12 oz lighter than my Raleigh International with a rack and no fenders.
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Are you looking for a complete bike, or frame/fork/headset/seatpost? I have a white 1972 Finest in the size you're seeking. I hadn't been planning on selling it, as I have some memories, but I could consider it. Cosmetically, it's about a 7, and is quite sound. Have vivid memories of the ride when it got me safely over a yearling groundhog that bolted in front of me, and then had to sprint clear of a rambunctious young pit bull that gave chase about a half mile farther on.

Not much besides the frame, fork, stem and bars are original now. Please let me know if this sounds like what you might want, and what part of the country you're in. I'll give this some thought in the mean-time. Will be glad to send you more pictures if interested.

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Are you looking for a complete bike, or frame/fork/headset/seatpost? I have a white 1972 Finest in the size you're seeking. I hadn't been planning on selling it, as I have some memories, but I could consider it. Cosmetically, it's about a 7, and is quite sound. Have vivid memories of the ride when it got me safely over a yearling groundhog that bolted in front of me, and then had to sprint clear of a rambunctious young pit bull that gave chase about a half mile farther on.

Not much besides the frame, fork, stem and bars are original now. Please let me know if this sounds like what you might want, and what part of the country you're in. I'll give this some thought in the mean-time. Will be glad to send you more pictures if interested.

Beautiful bike! That's quite the tempting offer and I'll definitely consider it, but unfortunately that new bike itch coincided with a rather good deal that I just happened across a few days ago and so I'm now waiting for my funds to replenish, which might take a short hop and skip. I'll certainly keep you in mind for the meantime, though! Thanks!
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Beautiful bike! That's quite the tempting offer and I'll definitely consider it, but unfortunately that new bike itch coincided with a rather good deal that I just happened across a few days ago and so I'm now waiting for my funds to replenish, which might take a short hop and skip. I'll certainly keep you in mind for the meantime, though! Thanks!
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