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WGB 09-23-19 03:17 PM

MKM frame and forks
 
SOLD 19 Sep

This is a little weird but definitely demonstrates why making a "homage bike" or "reproduction bike"is a bad idea.

PO took a perfectly good handmade British racing frame and stripped the paint and repainted and decaled it as a Pogliaghi!

It's an MKM Dominator. Frame is 22 inch or 56 cm. I would rate it as nicer than say a comparable Raleigh Super Course but beauty is in the eye of the beholder and to my eye this one has been horribly painted.

$75 plus shipping?

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d0d626a55b.jpg


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc8e1aa76a.jpg


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2bb714198b.jpg

noobinsf 09-23-19 03:59 PM

Wow, that's a fun project for someone.

For reference, MKM on Classic Rendezvous: MKM, main

nlerner 09-23-19 04:13 PM

So how did you figure out it's an MKM?

WGB 09-23-19 04:50 PM

I'd like to say it was all me but when I saw it I was able to "that ain't italian" and maybe it was British but that was it. T-Mar and Bertinjim and scarlson and juvela and unworth1 and a few others recognized it. I contacted the MKM website and gave them the sn 3878 and they confirmed it and confirmed it was built in 1976. Also said that as a plus it was upgraded with fastback seatstays which cost 3 pounds (about $16 US) extra bitd!

bertinjim 09-23-19 04:57 PM

The main British MKM site is here: https://www.mkm-cycles.co.uk/ I have seen the frame in the metal and it has lovely craftmanship and an appalling re- paint.

jdawginsc 09-23-19 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by noobinsf (Post 21135120)
Wow, that's a fun project for someone.

For reference, MKM on Classic Rendezvous: MKM, main

No-jig building. That's pretty impressive.

philbob57 09-23-19 05:17 PM

I bought my 1973 MKM Dominator as a used frame in 1981, and the label said that its tubes, forks, and stays forks are 531DB. I believe the Super Courses have straight gauge 531 for their 3 frame tubes.

I had an Atala with a label that said 3 straight gauge 531 frame tubes, and I loved it, but the MKM is a sweeter ride. I attribute that to the double-butted steel, but that's just the most obvious difference. In any case, I expect your rebadged MKM is a sweeter ride than a Super Course, given the same components and wheels.

WGB 09-23-19 06:20 PM

I bought it because it was such a weird story and I just had to go look but if it were a 24 or 25 inch frame I'd have blown $20 on brazeons for DT shifters and $75 on powder coat and kept it.

WGB 09-24-19 07:33 AM

Sorry all - my mistake

I got emailed about the size and something didn't seem right so I remeasured C to C and it's a 21 inch (54cm) frame.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...301a2e2be5.jpghttps://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...60c20e4004.jpg


Apologies!
Wesley

himespau 09-24-19 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by WGB (Post 21135343)
I bought it because it was such a weird story and I just had to go look but if it were a 24 or 25 inch frame I'd have blown $20 on brazeons for DT shifters and $75 on powder coat and kept it.

You and me both.

WGB 09-24-19 08:13 AM

I just checked the old ads and MKM made frames in 1/2 inch increments so might actually be 21.5in frame...

lostarchitect 09-24-19 12:51 PM

How long is the top tube?

bertinjim 09-24-19 12:57 PM

WGB-

Maybe right both ways? Brits measured center to top. Italians, center to center. So, since it's an MKM, decaled as a Pogliaghi it must be a 56 cm, 54cm frame.

WGB 09-24-19 03:13 PM

Just adding photos of top tube measurements for posterity as sold.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2e2a7e7cb7.jpg


Left side of tape is actually centered as shown in next photo


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8cbc8c9a56.jpg

Tape
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2d0161dbea.jpg

Apparently they went for longer top tube than seat tube.

Next time I'll add the measurements properly since I have another small frame - a Brian Rourke, also 54cm IIRC.

squirtdad 09-24-19 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by WGB (Post 21135954)
Sorry all - my mistake

I got emailed about the size and something didn't seem right so I remeasured C to C and it's a 21 inch (54cm) frame.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...301a2e2be5.jpghttps://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...60c20e4004.jpg


Apologies!
Wesley

thanks.... just dodged an n+1 bullet thinking that would be a great single speed

philbob57 09-24-19 03:45 PM

Those of us who are short and have relatively longer trunks and shorter legs than most cyclists really like 21" STs and 22" TTs.:) BTW, your frame's head tube is longer than my 21" frame's HT, so I think yours is 22" CTT.

You might market it for long trunk/short legs, though $75 for a full 531 frame that doesn't really need repainting is a great deal, IMO.

Nemosengineer 10-05-19 03:39 PM

PM Sent.

: Mike

WGB 10-05-19 04:31 PM

Sorry for any confusion but it sold on here on Sept 19th.

Wesley.

jdawginsc 10-06-19 01:33 PM

Personally, I thought the paint job was cool. Tear off the decals and go to town for October!

UKFan4Sure 10-10-19 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by WGB (Post 21136025)
I just checked the old ads and MKM made frames in 1/2 inch increments so might actually be 21.5in frame...

I was just thinking the same thing...


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