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Old 01-19-22, 01:13 PM
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WTB: Road handlebars & stem

Looking to buy bars and stem. As my 1974 Zeus track bike is going to be componented with various brands, I am open: GB, TTT, Cinelli, what have you? As I now own one bike with Japanese components, I guess I have a toe in the water there and that would be OK to consider too. And to be ridden on the road, do not need Pista bars.

Condition: Not requiring show or NOS, I plan to keep the bike forever, so "looks pretty good" would be nice, not excessively scarred.

Era: Appropriate to a 60's, 70's or even early 80's bike.

Stem: As I have short arms/torso for a guy that rides 24" ST frames, 90mm stem is good, 80mm even better.

Bars: I really, really like big round bends resulting in ramps being parallel to (or close to!) the drops, not with ramps sloping sharply down towards the brake hoods. A photo would be nice. I have narrow shoulders, so they need not be super wide.

What do you have? Cost, and by the way shipping to zip code 20706.
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what general type of bars are you looking for: track, road, or randonneur? Steel or aluminum? What reach on the stem do you want? Road stem or track stem?
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Originally Posted by Catnap View Post
what general type of bars are you looking for: track, road, or randonneur? Steel or aluminum? What reach on the stem do you want? Road stem or track stem?
Road, Aluminum, desired specs on bars and stem are in post #1
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Here you go, right here in the For Sale thread: Cinelli Bar and Stem Combo

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
Here you go, right here in the For Sale thread: Cinelli Bar and Stem Combo
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Yeah, saw that, hard to tell angle of ramps (I have Cinellis on another bike and on those there's more slope than I like), and a bit plus cher... but still: CINELLI
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Originally Posted by tiger1964 View Post
Yeah, saw that, hard to tell angle of ramps (I have Cinellis on another bike and on those there's more slope than I like), and a bit plus cher... but still: CINELLI
Yes, it's a Giro d'Italia, which doesn't have as big a drop curve as the Campione del Mondo, but more than a lot of other bars. But yeah, I get you

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
Yes, it's a Giro d'Italia, which doesn't have as big a drop curve as the Campione del Mondo, but more than a lot of other bars. But yeah, I get you
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That helps; found a side phot of Giro d-italias. Yeah, more ramp slope than I prefer.

If I cannot find here, I've been on eBay and elsewhere, looking for GB, Mavic, TTT, Cinelli, Nitto... what other decent brands should I be searching?
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Originally Posted by tiger1964 View Post
...looking for GB, Mavic, TTT, Cinelli, Nitto... what other decent brands should I be searching?
I think that pretty much covers the quality bars/stems - but remember that you need to match the stem diameter to the inside of your fork steerer - so get out those calipers again!

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
but remember that you need to match the stem diameter to the inside of your fork steerer - so get out those calipers again!
Mister Micrometer sez: The stem I took out reads 22.0, and the inside of the steerer tube is 22.15 to 22.20'ish. What does that tell us? C'est Francais?
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Originally Posted by tiger1964 View Post
Mister Micrometer sez: The stem I took out reads 22.0, and the inside of the steerer tube is 22.15 to 22.20'ish. What does that tell us? C'est Francais?
If the 22.0 fit in the original configuration, I'd personally stick with that size. My understanding is there was a 22.0 and a 22.2, but most info I pull up on Cinelli stems (and even the stem info on Sheldon Brown's site) seems to be concerned with calling out bar diameter dimensions - not quill diameters.

Somebody out there has the definitive answer. It's not me, however

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
If the 22.0 fit in the original configuration, I'd personally stick with that size. My understanding is there was a 22.0 and a 22.2, but most info I pull up on Cinelli stems (and even the stem info on Sheldon Brown's site) seems to be concerned with calling out bar diameter dimensions - not quill diameters.
Somebody out there has the definitive answer. It's not me, however
A couple of interesting things.
(a) I would have used the stem I have but in another topic recently came to the conclusion it's an oddball (Czech) and finding alloy road bars with a raised center section of only 15/16" is well nigh impossible.
(b) not sure why it should be an odd steerer size, it's not French or Spanish but a Tange fork I bought here at C&V/BF: FORK
(c) indeed, until someone else's recent topic, I did not know there was a 22.0 versus 22.2 issue.
(d) searching eBay for 22mm stem, lot of fun finding stems that also list handlebar diameter; seeing 25.4mm, might be limited choices.
EDIT: (e) every stem I have in the stash measures out on the micrometer at 22.0'ish and fit fine, including one of these Velo Orange steel stems STEM and it measures 22.0 and fits. Is Stem diameter a "nominal" dimension like 2x4 lumber?
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Itís likely a 22.2 but slightly oblong steerer. If 22.2s fit, very likely...Cannot imagine a Tange fork being oddball sized.
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I think your micrometer is broken.
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@tiger1964 - I have two 70mm and maybe one 80mm Cinelli 1A stems that I have no use for. One is sans clamp for the bar. I was going to post FS on these. I also have handlebars but I doubt they meet your needs.

Are looking for something like this? Lots of drop, big radius and rotated to provide the flat on top before the brake levers. This is an acceptable esthetic configuration to many. I like it because my hands align with my arms while in the drops. A bend is a bend when using the levers.
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Wow, this WTB thread is getting out of hand.

Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
If the 22.0 fit in the original configuration, I'd personally stick with that size. My understanding is there was a 22.0 and a 22.2, but most info I pull up on Cinelli stems (and even the stem info on Sheldon Brown's site) seems to be concerned with calling out bar diameter dimensions - not quill diameters
That got me thinking! This AM, I took my Palo Alto and laid it as close as possible to the intended Zeus track bike w/Tange frame. I carefully loosened the Cinelli stem, which measures a solid 22.2, while leaving the cables in place and test-fitted to the Zeus/Tange. Fits like a charm. I think I am OK with a 22.2.

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I think your micrometer is broken.
Possibly from over-use! I seem the measure everything to death ("when all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail"). That said, I am somewhat confident about the digital micrometer and I do always check the zero setting every time. Presumably if I had something I was 110% confident in like a cube of steel exactly 25mm on a side, I could check calibration. If my wife was going to the office at NASA instead of working from home, she could probably have an engineer in the labs check it out.

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@tiger1964 - I have two 70mm and maybe one 80mm Cinelli 1A stems that I have no use for. One is sans clamp for the bar. I was going to post FS on these. I also have handlebars but I doubt they meet your needs. Are looking for something like this? Lots of drop, big radius and rotated to provide the flat on top before the brake levers. This is an acceptable esthetic configuration to many. I like it because my hands align with my arms while in the drops. A bend is a bend when using the levers.
That is starting to sound interesting too! Looking at the photo, I like the ramps being parallel to the extension of the stem while the drops point at the rear axle -- that's how I was always taught. I wouldn't mind ever more parallel of the ramps and drops; as I am riding a track bike on the street, one (front) brake only, I am considering a guidonnet lever only so there will be no riding "on the hoods" and sloping ramps means I might tend to slide down the bars a bit. To eliminate mis-match, I rather want to buy bars & stem at the same time form the same person and thus ensure "fit".
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Has anyone done this kind of thing for drop bars?

https://whatbars.com
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@tiger1964 - I have two 70mm and maybe one 80mm Cinelli 1A stems that I have no use for. One is sans clamp for the bar. I was going to post FS on these.
If you want to, please provide specs (clamp and insertion diameter, whatever) and prices, etc. I may have a source for a set of bars from another member.

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Has anyone done this kind of thing for drop bars? https://whatbars.com
That is cool - yeah, if there was such a thing it would be bookmark-worthy
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@tiger1964 - 26.4 clamp. 22.2 insertion. 70mm reach. Scratches below the insertion line. some anodize removed from rubbing just above the line. $40 shipped in CUSA. Paypal. Sharpie circle is where it is marked 70.


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Cinelli 65 Criterium bars

@tiger1964 I have Cinelli 65s on my Zeus pista. And I have a couple of 65s in the garage. If the shape is what you're looking for I will check out the condition (1 is NOS and the other in VG condition as I recall).


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@tiger1964 - 26.4 clamp. 22.2 insertion. 70mm reach. Scratches below the insertion line. some anodize removed from rubbing just above the line. $40 shipped in CUSA. Paypal. Sharpie circle is where it is marked 70.
Thanks. Hey, if I am offered bars that measure out at 26.2 (a size I am not seeing listed online), that's the nominal clearance to fit a 26.4mm stem, correct? (I am having the same headaches with seat tube to seat post diameter)

I think with some aggressive polishing on the scratches on the top-front of the stem, it could look good. And 70mm accommodates my short arms, eh?
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@tiger1964 - Strange number of 26.2. I would suspect someone sanded it down or mis-measured.
There is the option to shim the bar. This stem clamping design works with shims.
I think the scratches on the top are very shallow and just break the anodizing. If you want bling. It will shine up very nicely as it does not have gouges. I can barely feel the scratches with my thumb nail.
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Thanks, everyone, for your input! I've now purchased bars and a stem from two forum members. I should now have almost everything I need to complete the bike.
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Thanks. Hey, if I am offered bars that measure out at 26.2 (a size I am not seeing listed online), that's the nominal clearance to fit a 26.4mm stem, correct?
Now that both bars and stem have arrived, I can report that the fit is perfect. Time to polish and assemble...
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