Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage > Classic and Vintage Sales
Reload this Page >

FS: 1973 58cm Lejeune Champion Du Monde Frame B. Carre Built

Notices
Classic and Vintage Sales Private Sales Only, no online storefronts. All prices must be quoted, we are not an auction site.

FS: 1973 58cm Lejeune Champion Du Monde Frame B. Carre Built

Old 07-27-22, 04:53 AM
  #1  
verktyg 
verktyg
Thread Starter
 
verktyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 4,004

Bikes: Current favorites: 1988 Peugeot Birraritz, 1984 Gitane Super Corsa, 1981 Bianchi Campione Del Mondo, 1992 Paramount OS, 1990 Bianchi Mondiale, 1988 Colnago Technos, 1985 RalieghUSA Team Pro, 1973 Holdsworth

Mentioned: 198 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1018 Post(s)
Liked 1,134 Times in 615 Posts
FS: 1973 58cm Lejeune Champion Du Monde Frame B. Carre Built

For Sale: 1973 Lejeune Champion Du Monde Frame, 58cm C to T, built by B. Carre. Low mileage... Original paint and decals. VG condition. $395 Plus Shipping

FREE local pickup or delivery in the SF Bay Area. PayPal Friends & Family unless other arrangements are made in advance.

Comes with French threaded Campagnolo Record headset and bottom bracket, both in VG condition.

Reynolds 531 throughout. Frame takes a 26.6mm seatpost rather than the standard 26.4mm. This indicates it's most likely made of lighter gauge .9mm x .6mm butted main tubes rather than the standard 1.0mm x .7mm wall thickness tubing used on most 531 frames from that era.

I just had the alignment checked by Ed Litton. It's dead on. The Rear triangle was ~124mm, it's now 126mm. I cleaned, chamfered and honed the seat tube and steerer for smooth insertion and removal.

Fork crown, head tube and BB have been refaced.

Seat Tube 58cm Center to Top
Top Tube 56cm Center to Center
Head Tube 73
Seat Tube 74
Chain Stays 43cm
Fork Rake ~40mm
Frame takes 700c x 32mm tires without any problem
Serial Number 213

It takes a "22.0mm" stem, but... except for Cinelli and 3TTT stems which were 22.0mm, most metric stems are 21.9mm and most steerers are slightly over 22.0mm... You can't put a 22.0mm stem in a 22.0mm hole.

Easy solution: most Nitto 22.2mm stems measure 22.1mm and fit most French steerers especially if they have been cleaned and honed. See last photo of a Nitto stem easily inserted up to the MAX mark in this "22.0mm" Lejuene steerer.

I also have some period correct 3TTT metric stems that I can sell you.

I first saw a Lejeune CdM in 1974. Lejeune frames with the block letter decals are uncommon. One of these had been on my bucket list for years.

I bought this frame in 2010. It was listed as a 57cm. It sat around for a while before I dug it out to build. That's when I discovered that the frame was 57cm Center to Center - 58cm Center to Top. Well my legs never got any longer so it's time to go to someone who can ride it.

TRUTH IN ADVERTISING TIME: there are quite a few well done and rubbed out touch-ups plus a minuscule .25mm ding in the top tube. There are also some small chips in the decals. It's in great shape for a 49 year old frame, ready to build and ride.

The frame more than passes the 10 foot test and with all the Campy bling, the 5 foot test. CR member Greg Softly at Cyclomondo in OZ makes replacement decals. https://www.cyclomondo.net/

What it looked like all Campy before the seller parted it out.



Frame with 700c x 28 tires












Nitto 22.2mm (marked) stem in a 22.0mm French steerer. Smooth fit.



Thanks for looking...

verktyg
__________________
Don't believe everything you think! History is written by those who weren't there....

Chas. ;-)


Last edited by verktyg; 07-27-22 at 05:10 AM.
verktyg is offline  
Likes For verktyg:
Old 07-27-22, 05:16 AM
  #2  
hazetguy 
Investigating!
 
hazetguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 562

Bikes: JAFCB

Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1488 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,648 Times in 823 Posts
holy cow. i wake up and this is the first thing i see?
pm sent with a question.
__________________
Originally Posted by hyperflame View Post
Ok i have a protable gen.i can plug my charger into and charge the batt while riding my bikeany body know what may happen
hazetguy is offline  
Old 07-27-22, 07:08 AM
  #3  
jdawginsc 
Edumacator
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 4,689

Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...

Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1507 Post(s)
Liked 1,441 Times in 997 Posts
Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
holy cow. i wake up and this is the first thing i see?
pm sent with a question.
I know, right? Thankfully too large!
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1980s Vanni Losa Cassani thingy, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981? Faggin, 1996ish Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe (most not finished of course)...need to not buy any more.





jdawginsc is online now  
Old 07-27-22, 07:43 AM
  #4  
hazetguy 
Investigating!
 
hazetguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 562

Bikes: JAFCB

Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1488 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,648 Times in 823 Posts
i'll leave the light on......


__________________
Originally Posted by hyperflame View Post
Ok i have a protable gen.i can plug my charger into and charge the batt while riding my bikeany body know what may happen
hazetguy is offline  
Likes For hazetguy:
Old 07-27-22, 08:00 AM
  #5  
jdawginsc 
Edumacator
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 4,689

Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...

Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1507 Post(s)
Liked 1,441 Times in 997 Posts
Originally Posted by hazetguy View Post
i'll leave the light on......


Perfect match for you!
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1980s Vanni Losa Cassani thingy, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981? Faggin, 1996ish Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe (most not finished of course)...need to not buy any more.





jdawginsc is online now  
Old 07-27-22, 08:19 AM
  #6  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 19,582

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5516 Post(s)
Liked 2,458 Times in 1,578 Posts
Originally Posted by verktyg View Post
For Sale: 1973 Lejeune Champion Du Monde Frame, 58cm C to T, built by B. Carre. Low mileage... Original paint and decals. VG condition. $395 Plus Shipping

snip . . .
verktyg
Beautiful bike. What is that piece that is brazed on the seatstay just above the drop out eyelet?

Great ad by the way giving all the details anyone would want who is thinking of buying this bike.
bikemig is online now  
Old 07-27-22, 08:19 AM
  #7  
bbbob
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 56

Bikes: Bianco porteur

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 30 Post(s)
Liked 43 Times in 21 Posts
Here's another one similar smaller : https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik...501569699.html
bbbob is offline  
Old 07-27-22, 08:33 AM
  #8  
verktyg 
verktyg
Thread Starter
 
verktyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 4,004

Bikes: Current favorites: 1988 Peugeot Birraritz, 1984 Gitane Super Corsa, 1981 Bianchi Campione Del Mondo, 1992 Paramount OS, 1990 Bianchi Mondiale, 1988 Colnago Technos, 1985 RalieghUSA Team Pro, 1973 Holdsworth

Mentioned: 198 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1018 Post(s)
Liked 1,134 Times in 615 Posts
FS: 1973 58cm Lejeune Champion Du Monde Frame SOLD

SOLD... Thanks everybody for looking.

BigMig The braze-on on the dropout is an RD cable guide. One of the features of B.Carre frames.



verktyg
__________________
Don't believe everything you think! History is written by those who weren't there....

Chas. ;-)

verktyg is offline  
Likes For verktyg:
Old 07-27-22, 09:30 AM
  #9  
repechage
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 17,834
Mentioned: 119 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2544 Post(s)
Liked 1,488 Times in 1,117 Posts
Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
Beautiful bike. What is that piece that is brazed on the seatstay just above the drop out eyelet?

Great ad by the way giving all the details anyone would want who is thinking of buying this bike.
Cable housing management.
repechage is offline  
Old 07-27-22, 10:37 AM
  #10  
beech333
Fuji Fan
 
beech333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Oswego, Il
Posts: 1,810

Bikes: Was Fuji and got my grails (Pro, Pro SR, Design Series, & Ti). Now I hunt 50's and older road bikes.

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 84 Post(s)
Liked 65 Times in 54 Posts
Nice. I also saw this when I woke up this morning. I felt a mix of sad and glad that this was a bit small for me. If it were 60cm, I probably would have pulled the trigger, because I have always wanted to try a Lejeune and/or Carre frame.
beech333 is offline  
Old 07-27-22, 02:01 PM
  #11  
tiger1964 
Senior Member
 
tiger1964's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 1,715

Bikes: Drysdale/Gitane/Zeus/Masi/Falcon/Palo Alto/Raleigh

Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 632 Post(s)
Liked 257 Times in 186 Posts
"If you rode a LeJeune between 1955 and 1988, you may be entitled to substantial compensation. Please contact--" Oops, wrong topic.

Seriously, lovely bike; hopefully new owner will show pics once built up. My brother has a LeJeune in that color and roughly that year, but I presume next model down (or two?) with Huret Jubilee, T/A cranks, etc. and IIRC, tubulars.
__________________
Larry:1958 Drysdale, 1961 Gitane Gran Sport, 1974 Zeus track, 1988 Masi Gran Corsa, 1974 Falcon, 1980 Palo Alto, 197x Raleigh Gran Sport. Susan: 1976 Windsor Profesional.

tiger1964 is online now  
Old 07-28-22, 04:15 AM
  #12  
jdawginsc 
Edumacator
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 4,689

Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...

Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1507 Post(s)
Liked 1,441 Times in 997 Posts
Originally Posted by verktyg View Post
SOLD... Thanks everybody for looking.

BigMig The braze-on on the dropout is an RD cable guide. One of the features of B.Carre frames.



verktyg
One of my favorite little brazeons that I wish all builders would use...
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1980s Vanni Losa Cassani thingy, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981? Faggin, 1996ish Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe (most not finished of course)...need to not buy any more.





jdawginsc is online now  
Old 07-28-22, 06:27 AM
  #13  
oneclick 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 2,053
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 764 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 810 Times in 497 Posts
Originally Posted by jdawginsc View Post
One of my favorite little brazeons that I wish all builders would use...
I disagree.

The thing about Bowden cables is that any runs of flexible housing should be simple curves; if they are not, the resulting movement is less precise.
For rear mechs that have a moving cable housing stop (as most do), adding an intermediate fixed point to the flexible run will force a compound curve at all but one position.
The implications for clicky-shifters are obvious, but even for friction shifting you can feel the difference - you need to move the lever more to start the mech moving, and overshift more to make sure it stays where you want it when you let go.

I say this despite having myself a quite nice mystery frame with both those caps and the dropout guide - AND two chainstay stops, one top, one bottom.
I don't know if they are original, but the whole back end was chromed - I just painted over - and it must have been done after the stops went on.

(Apologies for the fuzzyness of the first pic, it's a crop from the full-size version of the second.)






Fork is panto-ed Mercier, the frame had been painted with Mercier decals but showed Le Jeune decal remnants when I stripped it, so it is, as they say in the jewellry trade, a "marriage".
oneclick is offline  
Old 07-28-22, 08:11 AM
  #14  
kroozer 
vintage motor
 
kroozer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico
Posts: 1,499

Bikes: 48 Automoto, 49 Stallard, 50 Rotrax, 62 Jack Taylor, 67 Atala, 68 Lejeune, 72-74-75 Motobecanes, 73 RIH, 71 Zieleman, 74 Raleigh, 78 Windsor, 83 Messina (Villata), 84 Brazzo (Losa), 85 Davidson, 90 Diamondback, 92 Kestrel

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 111 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 55 Times in 43 Posts
Originally Posted by oneclick View Post




Fork is panto-ed Mercier, the frame had been painted with Mercier decals but showed Le Jeune decal remnants when I stripped it, so it is, as they say in the jewellry trade, a "marriage".
I would guess that frame is a Lejeune, going by the seat stay RD cable guide and the faded decals. Also, Lejeune used those Prugnat 62 lugs on many of their bikes. The seat stay caps look the the raised leaf style that was also a Lejeune characteristic. Also the fish mouth rear stay ends.
kroozer is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.