1958-1960 Cinelli Model B
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1958-1960 Cinelli Model B

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- 1958-1960 Cinelli Model B. Sold
- Frame/fork – Cinelli Model B, 56.5cm ctc seat tube, 56.5cm ctc top tube, 115mm rear spacing, Simplex dropouts, wolf ear head tube lugs, braze-on pump pegs, original seat clamp binding bolt, serial number 6073
- Headset – Cinelli branded, Italian threads
- Stem – Steel badged Cinelli, 110mm
- Bars – Steel Cinelli, Campione del Mondo model, 35cm ctc
- Plugs – Velox
- Crank - Steel cottered, branded Lightweight (typical in German builds), 114 BCD, 170mm length
- BB – Branded R&C, Italian threads, I never have seen one like it
- Chainring – Steel, 50/47
- Pedals – Wippermann steel with lovely reflectors
- FD – Cyclo rod shifter
- RD – Campagnolo Gran Sport, open C model
- Shift lever – Clamp-on single-sided Campagnolo, open C model
- Shift cable guide – Clamp-on single-sided Campagnolo tube style
- Hubs – Atom low flange, script logo, aluminum, 36 holes, solid axle, Italian threads
- Rims – Weinmann wood-filled, 36 holes, tubular
- Spokes – DT Swiss stainless steel 2.0mm straight gauge
- Tires – Clement Servizio Corse 30mm
- Freewheel – Regina, 4-speed, 16/18/20/22, Italian threads
- Brake calipers – Balilla model 49 side-pull
- Brake levers – Balilla model 49, Balilla hoods
- Brake cables – Generic
- Brake cable clamps – Universal with side routing
- Seat – Record
- Seat post – Domed steel, 26.2mm
- Pump – Silca, brass head
- St. Christopher medallion
- Spares
- Campagnolo right-side open C shift lever
- Wippermann pedals where I took one of the duct caps to match, but the pedals don’t match
- Huret TdF RD
- Huret shift lever parts in case you want to make something for the original Huret TdF RD
- Weinmann wood-filled tubular
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You're killing me. I wish this were just a bit bigger. My back protests vintage 58cm(C-T) frames anymore, outside of very short rides, and I would feel so guilty hanging this on a wall so often.
FYI, this bike is perfection, and deserves perfection. You may want to clean up this line.
FYI, this bike is perfection, and deserves perfection. You may want to clean up this line.
- Plugs – Velox Crank – Steel cottered, branded Lightweight (typical in German builds), 114 BCD, 170mm length
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You're killing me. I wish this were just a bit bigger. My back protests vintage 58cm(C-T) frames anymore, outside of very short rides, and I would feel so guilty hanging this on a wall so often.
FYI, this bike is perfection, and deserves perfection. You may want to clean up this line.
FYI, this bike is perfection, and deserves perfection. You may want to clean up this line.
- Plugs – Velox Crank – Steel cottered, branded Lightweight (typical in German builds), 114 BCD, 170mm length

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Bumping a cool bike and a good seller. I can't believe this has not sold yet. If only it were taller.
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And just to make the deal juicier, something Lizzo would appreciate, I was at a swap and found the exact same RC bottom bracket adjustable cup and lock ring. Never saw one before in my life except on this bike, now there are 2. Needless to say, cup and ring comes in the deal. How could you say no.

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And just to make the deal juicier, something Lizzo would appreciate, I was at a swap and found the exact same RC bottom bracket adjustable cup and lock ring. Never saw one before in my life except on this bike, now there are 2. Needless to say, cup and ring comes in the deal. How could you say no. 


Very nice bike at a reasonable price for the rolling time capsule that it is. Especially with that stem. I'd probably crash riding it (if I could ride it - I'd look like a circus bear on it) from staring down at it all the time.
Hey, maybe Chris Froome had an old steel Cinelli badged stem, and that was why he was always looking down . . . .
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If it were 61 CTT, it would be living in California right now....
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Alas, it is too small for either of us to ride it comfortably.
It's too bad that you missed that red one on Ebay last December. Had I been within a couple hours drive and if it fit, I would have picked that up. I don't recall exactly where it was located in CA or where you are at, but that seemed like a steal.
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Nice. I had thought he could have the probability of seeing it locally in the wild...and on his annual spring Chicagoland rides.
Alas, it is too small for either of us to ride it comfortably.
It's too bad that you missed that red one on Ebay last December. Had I been within a couple hours drive and if it fit, I would have picked that up. I don't recall exactly where it was located in CA or where you are at, but that seemed like a steal.
Alas, it is too small for either of us to ride it comfortably.
It's too bad that you missed that red one on Ebay last December. Had I been within a couple hours drive and if it fit, I would have picked that up. I don't recall exactly where it was located in CA or where you are at, but that seemed like a steal.
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Weekend sale! 
Price drop - Sold

Price drop - Sold
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Great deal on a vintage classic!
Where are all those 1957 Cinelli SC lovers (vs 1977)?
BTW, Im not a Cinelli expert, what are some of the model diff's SC vs B?
HTH ...
Where are all those 1957 Cinelli SC lovers (vs 1977)?
BTW, Im not a Cinelli expert, what are some of the model diff's SC vs B?
HTH ...
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So in reality, not much.

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In the 50s, SCs used Reynolds tubing, Bs used Falck. Or I have been told. SCs had the fancy sloping fork crowns with the inner sockets, Bs had a regular semi-sloping fork crowns. SCs had a BB oil port, Bs nothing. SCs were equipped with fancy components, Bs with the lesser stuff.
So in reality, not much.
So in reality, not much.

Was this part of the Campy setup for the SCs?
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Not necessarily. Volumes of Cinelli frames was about 300/year. There was no "set" bike. I think most shipped as frames for shops to build them as seen fit. Viktor Kapitinov won Olympic road race gold in 1960 on a Model B with with Campagnolo. But as a general rule of thumb, shops built the "best" frames with the "best" stuff and the lower tier frames with lower tier stuff. Hence the rod FD on this bike was pretty much obsolete by 1958.
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Free bump. I can't believe this has not sold.
FWIW, I always preferred the fork crown on this, vs the fork crown on the SC. I just never have been a fan of the sloping fork crowns. I imagine that unless a screaming deal comes along for a SC, I would never buy one. I would only consider paying fair market value for the Model B and feel like a dummy for letting a 60/61cm one slip through my fingers several years ago.
FWIW, I always preferred the fork crown on this, vs the fork crown on the SC. I just never have been a fan of the sloping fork crowns. I imagine that unless a screaming deal comes along for a SC, I would never buy one. I would only consider paying fair market value for the Model B and feel like a dummy for letting a 60/61cm one slip through my fingers several years ago.
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Bump for a bike that's too small for me, unfortunately.
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In the 50s, SCs used Reynolds tubing, Bs used Falck. Or I have been told. SCs had the fancy sloping fork crowns with the inner sockets, Bs had a regular semi-sloping fork crowns. SCs had a BB oil port, Bs nothing. SCs were equipped with fancy components, Bs with the lesser stuff.
So in reality, not much.
So in reality, not much.

Strange times right now, this bike should have sold with back up offers since the original post.
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I honestly think it has more to do with overall economic trends. Things have gotten real steep in a lot of basic sectors over the past couple of years, and generally people are keeping their wallets a bit closer unless if they simply cannot resist some extra spending. I've had to take a 180° turn after reckoning with the fact that I need to pay for a seminar course in Modena in full this summer, including all of the travel expenses. I could sell my entire little bicycle collection (most of which was built up over the past few years) and probably just cover the costs, so I'm attempting to accomplish about half of that knowing full well this is not the best market to be selling in... Good luck with this sale, however it goes!
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Just chiming in because I agree that this bike should be enjoying a new owner by now. I am getting ready to sell a couple of bikes just to thin down. I have had the first one out there for over a month and only two inquiries and no offers.....hmm
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The collector car market has not gone downhill yet, the gavel prices on bringatrailer are amazing still.
I attribute it to the guys, and the it is mostly guys who are interested in classic lightweight bikes are just not as well off as one would hope.
Italy has other mega trends economically and demographically, not enough younger with cash to buy the units in circulation.