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Old 03-29-15, 10:13 PM
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Garage Queen or ride it??

When is a bike an investment versus a ride? Today I bought a 1975 Richard Sachs from the original owner. It was RS's 81st build and I have full documentation. It looks like new, seriously. It has not been ridden in 15 years and before that sparingly. I own and ride a good number of 70's and 80's bikes and they are great bikes (Paramount, Roberts, Erickson, etc), but this one stands out as something special. What would you do********** Jeff
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Old 03-29-15, 10:20 PM
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Sounds great Jeff but I'd post a picture or two to get everyone worked up and let the discussion begin.

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Personally, if I can't bring myself to ride it, I'd move it on to someone else. Then I'd get something I'd like and would ride. I've stated before that I've actually sold some N.O.S. car parts that I couldn't bring myself to ever use. I saw no sense in leaving them on a shelf to ogle over. Off they, went, spent the money on items I wanted and would use instead.
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Old 03-29-15, 10:33 PM
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Bikes are made to be ridden.
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Old 03-29-15, 10:47 PM
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Ride it on sunny days for recreation, preferably on cycling paths or MUPs where you don't have to worry about getting hit by a distracted driver. Enjoy it while reducing the risk of something bad happening.
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It's up to to you, really. If you want to ride it, go ahead, it's a bicycle, right? At least try to ride it.

You may not like it as much as your Colnago, Tempo, or C-dale, but you should give it a fair shot.
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Old 03-29-15, 11:16 PM
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I don't collect art. I collect things I can and will use.
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Old 03-29-15, 11:29 PM
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Knew a guy who had a 10,000+ dollar snap-on tool box with all anniversary edition tools. He spent all that money and when it came time to do a job he would pull out his craftsmen. Don't be that guy. If it's too good for you, give it to me. I'll ride it hard and put it away wet!
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Old 03-30-15, 05:18 AM
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Ride it with care, then clean it with care.
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I don't collect art. I collect things I can and will use.
I use art. All the time. To enhance our environment here.
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If it makes you feel good to look at it hanging on the wall, then do that. But since you are asking for other opinions, I suspect that you are not one to have a bike just to look at. I would not spend a lot of money for a bike that I am not going to ride. At the very least, I would take it out on nice sunny days or special rides to be able to enjoy it doing what it was built for.
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I'd ride it with care. It would be interesting if you shared your experiences and compared rides.

But I won't believe your story until an image is posted.
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Originally Posted by jeff44 View Post
When is a bike an investment versus a ride?
Bicycles, unless a unique historic machine with guaranteed provenance and in 100% original condition, are not an investment.
Like this one ( if it still exists ).



A stock index fund is an investment, perhaps not the best one, an old bicycle ridden by some guy is just an old bicycle.
Ride it, or hang it on the wall as you choose.

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Old 03-30-15, 06:59 AM
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Ride it Jeff! But wait to all the salt is off the road and the potholes are filled!

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Old 03-30-15, 07:09 AM
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What's wrong with having a parade day ride or two?
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This is one reason why I don't own expensive, collectible bikes. The other reason is that I can't afford them.

I have two friends with custom Sachs bikes and they rarely ever ride them because they don't want them to get dirty or scratched. What an absolute shame, IMHO. What's the point of owning a bike that is supposedly the pinnacle of the craft and then just hanging it on the wall?

On the other hand, I wouldn't mind hanging a "work of art" bicycle in my house, if my wife would allow it. However, that's not gonna happen.
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Old 03-30-15, 07:17 AM
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Richard has obliquely written that he was not really happy until he was at frame 500 or so, I don't know if this includes the frames at Witcomb USA. So, as a historical piece is has that, as his best work, maybe not.
So, ride it.
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Classic bikes are for enjoying. If you like to ride, ride it.

If you get stressed out, hang it on the wall and stare at it.
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Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
Bicycles, unless a unique historic machine with guaranteed provenance and in 100% original condition, are not an investment.
Like this one ( if it still exists ).

A stock index fund is an investment, perhaps not the best one, an old bicycle ridden by some guy is just an old bicycle.
Ride it, or hang it on the wall as you choose.

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+100 I have bikes and I have investments. None of my bikes are investments. Some do hold their value, or even appreciate slowly. Such appreciation can stop at any time, and even decline, as collectors move on to other interests. I've got a lot of antiques that have been through this cycle. They appreciated nicely for a decade or two, then started declining as fickle collectors moved on to other categories.
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What's wrong with having a parade day ride or two?
Yes!
Same as owning an old car to take to car shows. If it makes you happy, it can't be all that bad.
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Old 03-30-15, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by nesteel View Post
Personally, if I can't bring myself to ride it, I'd move it on to someone else. Then I'd get something I'd like and would ride. I've stated before that I've actually sold some N.O.S. car parts that I couldn't bring myself to ever use. I saw no sense in leaving them on a shelf to ogle over. Off they, went, spent the money on items I wanted and would use instead.
+1 on that.
I wouldn't buy a bike which I couldn't bring myself to ride. I would probably leave it for a collector.

I also tend to try and avoid NOS parts as I'd rather use up the Global Stock of serviceable used parts first. Better to pass the NOS stuff on, to go on someone else's shelf.
If the parts are still in production, then I'll bung them on the bike with no worries...
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Old 03-30-15, 09:28 AM
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Who's Richard Sachs ?
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Originally Posted by Flog00 View Post
Yes!
Same as owning an old car to take to car shows. If it makes you happy, it can't be all that bad.
Yep, no point in beating up the old Herse on the daily drag to work. I don't get those hardliners that scream that every bike should be ridden until the wheels fall off.

I got my SOMEC for those nice day rides and a generic modern alu bike for training and I like the arrangement.

Oh, and the classic car comparison brings me to another point: I really do think there needs to be more "Goodwood" style events that combine a concours with a brutal hillclimb
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
+100 I have bikes and I have investments. None of my bikes are investments. Some do hold their value, or even appreciate slowly. Such appreciation can stop at any time, and even decline, as collectors move on to other interests. I've got a lot of antiques that have been through this cycle. They appreciated nicely for a decade or two, then started declining as fickle collectors moved on to other categories.
+1 ....Life is too short and in the end the little extra "lost" by riding it will not be missed, you can still hang it on the wall after taking it out for a spin.

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