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Old 04-08-15, 02:43 PM
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Best quality cyclocomputer for Strava uploads?

I need a cyclocomputer to upload my rides to Strava. I don't have a smart phone so that's a no-go. What is the best bang for buck? Garmin, CatEye, ect? My limit is $200 or cheaper!
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I'm sure some of the users of the C&V forum are active strava-ists, but you'd probably get better researched answers on the Road Cycling forum.
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I've got two difference computers, so I'll chime in.1) Garmin Edge 500 - fantastic tool, especially when paired with the heart rate strap, and cadence / speed sensor. Also has barometric altimeter. Device is easy to use, setup, and upload to strava. Upload is easy as dragging a file. Display is configurable with different fields, such as max speed, max HR, distance, ect...2) Cateye Stealth 50 - Not as good as the Edge, has no barometric altimeter, but can be paired with heart rate / cadence / speed. Cheaper than the Edge 500. Major gripe is non standard interface to computer. Requires it's own special dock to upload and charge, and uploading a ride to strava takes several minutes, even for a short ride. Display is not configurable, and menu's are not the most intuitive.GPS accuracy in both units is the same. Battery life is much longer on edge 500, but both are capable of recording a long century, so I'm not sure if it matters. The Stealth is cheaper, but having both, I would 100% of the time choose the Edge 500 again.
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I've got the Edge 500, and really like it, especially when I read the instructions, and I like the new cadence sensor that goes on the crank arm.

I don't use Strava. I haven't figured out how to lie on it.
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I use a Garmin Edge 200. It is a lot cheaper than the 500 and I only wanted to track miles, speed and my routs. A big drawback it has is on the active screen you use it doesn't give you the current time. It shows elapsed time but not the current time.
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The Garmin 500 is the F-150 of cyclocomputers. It just works. The Garmin HRM chest strap blows goats in my opinion: it tends to drop out and give spurious readings, even when applied wet and given a fresh battery. I'm enamored with my new Mio Link optical HRM that just goes around my wrist. It's accurate, comfortable, and I don't feel like a bridesmaid tugging a strapless dress during a ride as the chest strap slowly works its way down. Battery life on both the Mio and the G500 are about the same at 8-10 hours. It'll hold out for a century ride and then some.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
I don't use Strava. I haven't figured out how to lie on it.
Me neither but I suspect other people have.
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Found a Garmin 305 for $40 bucks I think I am going to give it a go. If don't like I will re-sell and get a 200 or 500
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Found a Garmin 305 for $40 bucks I think I am going to give it a go. If don't like I will re-sell and get a 200 or 500
I have one.

Do a bit of research on Garmin 305 battery replacement. The glue that holds the case halves together tends to give way over time and the battery can start getting intermittent contact. Symptoms are random dropouts and reboots. I fixed mine with epoxy and 3M type 88 electrical tape to hold the case shut. It's tres tres classy now. But it works. It's been relegated to the garage trainer bike since I got the 500.

Pro Tip: Get the velcro wrist strap and put a 2" section of foam pipe insulation on your bars next to the stem. Garmin's own handlebar mounts are either fussy (the molded rubber shim type) or insecure (the QR type) and tend to eject your new gadget on the road when you ride over any less than glassy surface. Pipe insulation's dirt cheap (about $2) and has tons of use for bike hoarders.
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Originally Posted by peugeot mongrel View Post
I use a Garmin Edge 200. It is a lot cheaper than the 500 and I only wanted to track miles, speed and my routs. A big drawback it has is on the active screen you use it doesn't give you the current time. It shows elapsed time but not the current time.
Hmm. I picked up an Edge 200 for a friend, and hers tells time. In fact, she set the screens to only show Time of Day/Elapsed Time on one screen, and Avg Speed/Actual Speed on a second screen.


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Pro Tip: Get the velcro wrist strap and put a 2" section of foam pipe insulation on your bars next to the stem. Garmin's own handlebar mounts are either fussy (the molded rubber shim type) or insecure (the QR type) and tend to eject your new gadget on the road when you ride over any less than glassy surface. Pipe insulation's dirt cheap (about $2) and has tons of use for bike hoarders.
Are you using the round quarter-turn mount with the thin rubber backing and 2 O-rings? That's what I've got and they work fine on my C&V bars, using the smaller O-rings. Solid and secure, easy to use. I tried them on the quill stem, not quite as tight, so it rotates if you ham-fist the Garmin buttons. If you really want a secure, centered mount on C&V, use that mount over the quill stem's bar clamping area, run your O-rings around the bars. Very secure, right below your eyes, and unobtrusive.

For modern bars, I use the cheap SRAM "out in front" 31.8 Garmin mount. Outstanding value, wish they made a 25.4-26.4 model. I've also used the O-ring mount on an FSA Plasma bar/stem combo, but I had to use large O-rings and it looked funny. I ended up buying a Chinese mount that acts as a 5mm steerer spacer, as well. The part that holds the cyclo unit was way too small in circumference to hold the unit, so I trimmed one of the quarter-turn mounts down, used it without the rubber washer, and hot-glued it to the Chinese spacer mount. When the glue dried, I sanded it down and sprayed it with black Testor's, and it looks like a custom mount. Of course, then I sold the bike....

Since I use XP, Garmin's software is less than friendly and won't work very well with XP's last IE. With Garmin's USB add-on and Firefox, no problem. I'd recommend a used Garmin any time, but if you can get the Bluetooth models, they seem to upload to Garmin Connect a lot quicker, straight through your smart phone, if you have one.


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The Garmin 500 is the F-150 of cyclocomputers. It just works.
Word.


The Garmin HRM chest strap blows goats in my opinion: it tends to drop out and give spurious readings, even when applied wet and given a fresh battery. I'm enamored with my new Mio Link optical HRM that just goes around my wrist. It's accurate, comfortable, and I don't feel like a bridesmaid tugging a strapless dress during a ride as the chest strap slowly works its way down.
I agree. Though my HR monitor works very well, I'm not a big fan of the strap. Since I'm fat, I don't have the V-shaped torso that has the strap sliding down, and I've already tried it in a couple of jerseys with chest pockets, not all that great. I tried braiding it to my chest hair, but it looked funny, so I use the strap. I considered adding a strap over the shoulder, but then I looked like, well, let's not go there.

I have issues with inconsistent cadence sensors, both the older chainstay-type and the newer crank-arm type. Bike shops tell me it must be me, but what do they know; they've only mounted hundreds successfully.
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I use my iPhone directly in Strava
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I use my iPhone directly in Strava
Which app?
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Which app?
Strava itself
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post

Are you using the round quarter-turn mount with the thin rubber backing and 2 O-rings? That's what I've got and they work fine on my C&V bars, using the smaller O-rings. Solid and secure, easy to use. I tried them on the quill stem, not quite as tight, so it rotates if you ham-fist the Garmin buttons. If you really want a secure, centered mount on C&V, use that mount over the quill stem's bar clamping area, run your O-rings around the bars. Very secure, right below your eyes, and unobtrusive.

For modern bars, I use the cheap SRAM "out in front" 31.8 Garmin mount. Outstanding value, wish they made a 25.4-26.4 model. I've also used the O-ring mount on an FSA Plasma bar/stem combo, but I had to use large O-rings and it looked funny. I ended up buying a Chinese mount that acts as a 5mm steerer spacer, as well. The part that holds the cyclo unit was way too small in circumference to hold the unit, so I trimmed one of the quarter-turn mounts down, used it without the rubber washer, and hot-glued it to the Chinese spacer mount. When the glue dried, I sanded it down and sprayed it with black Testor's, and it looks like a custom mount. Of course, then I sold the bike....
Negative. The form factor of the 305 is a watch. It's really a running GPS with secondary bike functions. Here's some stolen from the interwebz pics of the 305 and its terrible handlebar mounts. The factory 500 mount is great. And if you order extra mounts from Amazon, they come in a two pack for about seven dollars. At under $5 each, you can move the computer from bike to bike with a quick twist.

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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
I don't use Strava. I haven't figured out how to lie on it.
Robbie... Lying on Strava is a hoot... if you're not doing it, you're missing out on some great fun!

I don't use Strava either, mainly because I find that Strava is geared toward making every ride hyper-competitive. Plus the Strava premium account is too expensive in my opinion.

We do have a bunch of millenials around here that live and die by Strava... and they constantly fight over the local segment titles. So I do have a Strava account that I use to drive them out of their minds. Yes. I'm a total ass hat when it comes to this.

Example:
This group of twenty-somethings is really awful. You know the type... they are the fastest around town, but they never ride outside our little community because they aren't really that good. Big fish in the little pond sort of thing. Riders from Macon or Atlanta eat these boys for lunch, so they only ride around here and make themselves feel better by dropping beginners on the weekly no-drop rides.

These guys have a Strava segment that they are really proud of... it's a 1.5 mile segment of dead flat and straight road right near my house. These kids fight over the segment title to the point that they'll get others to lead them out in a train over that segment. They'll even get together a quick train to attempt that segment when they see that they have a tailwind blowing down that road.

So in comes me with the Strava lies: Every once in a while I will check to see who has the segment time. If it's one of the jerks, I get in my car with my trusty Edge 500 and log a time that's a couple of seconds faster than theirs. Then I go to the LBS and listen to them whine about who this mysterious fast guy may be! When they break my bogus time, I'll do it again... just a second or two faster. After a few weeks of this, I'll disappear for a few months. It's great fun!

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Originally Posted by brandon98 View Post
Negative. The form factor of the 305 is a watch. It's really a running GPS with secondary bike functions. Here's some stolen from the interwebz pics of the 305 and its terrible handlebar mounts. The factory 500 mount is great. And if you order extra mounts from Amazon, they come in a two pack for about seven dollars. At under $5 each, you can move the computer from bike to bike with a quick twist.

That's the ForRunner 305 not the Garmin Edge 305. We are talking about the Edge 305
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
I've got the Edge 500, and really like it, especially when I read the instructions, and I like the new cadence sensor that goes on the crank arm.

I don't use Strava. I haven't figured out how to lie on it.
Those are the guys driving up climbs early on a Sunday morning at 18-20 mph with the app running, pretty easy to spot as they wave other motorists around.
For those who must have a KOM that is never surpassed.

Strava is useful for providing baseline data to me. "This ride is this long with x amount of climbing"
Other than that, it encourages one to do stupid things like run stop signs and signals.
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Robbie... Lying on Strava is a hoot... if you're not doing it, you're missing out on some great fun!

I don't use Strava either, mainly because I find that Strava is geared toward making every ride hyper-competitive. Plus the Strava premium account is too expensive in my opinion.

We do have a bunch of millenials around here that live and die by Strava... and they constantly fight over the local segment titles. So I do have a Strava account that I use to drive them out of their minds. Yes. I'm a total ass hat when it comes to this.

Example:
This group of twenty-somethings is really awful. You know the type... they are the fastest around town, but they never ride outside our little community because they aren't really that good. Big fish in the little pond sort of thing. Riders from Macon or Atlanta eat these boys for lunch, so they only ride around here and make themselves feel better by dropping beginners on the weekly no-drop rides.

These guys have a Strava segment that they are really proud of... it's a 1.5 mile segment of dead flat and straight road right near my house. These kids fight over the segment title to the point that they'll get others to lead them out in a train over that segment. They'll even get together a quick train to attempt that segment when they see that they have a tailwind blowing down that road.

So in comes me with the Strava lies: Every once in a while I will check to see who has the segment time. If it's one of the jerks, I get in my car with my trusty Edge 500 and log a time that's a couple of seconds faster than theirs. Then I go to the LBS and listen to them whine about who this mysterious fast guy may be! When they break my bogus time, I'll do it again... just a second or two faster. After a few weeks of this, I'll disappear for a few months. It's great fun!
And that my friends is the definition of being a ******, example provided.

In all seriousness, I'll never understand why people would do this, then gripe about the "20 somethings" who are being competitive.
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Went and picked up this Garmin Edge 305 and all that you see for $40. Extra Bike mounts, a MicroFlate, Polar Cadence and Polar Speed...where do these mount and how? There is a Polar bracket that came with it too.
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Hmm. I picked up an Edge 200 for a friend, and hers tells time. In fact, she set the screens to only show Time of Day/Elapsed Time on one screen, and Avg Speed/Actual Speed on a second screen.
I'd like to know how to do that. I have the latest firmware (2011 v2.10). With mine the only current time is on the screen before the ride screen very small in the upper left corner (too small for me to see while riding) Fine for a spot check at a stop but my phone is easier to pull out if I care. The ride screen shows MPH, miles, elapsed time. At the bottom there is the option of showing adv speed, ascent or calories. The elapsed time is easy to calculate because you know when you start. It's always a little off since I set it to auto pause when I'm stopped at a light.

It was a gift from my son-in-law and works great for me. We discussed it vs the 500 and went for the 200 because I didn't feel like I would use the monitors. We were both surprised that the current time couldn't be easily viewed while riding.

Only point here is that a lot of people are surprised by that simple obvious omission on Garmin's part. I'm sure it is more of a problem for some than others. Since @Flyboy718 just got an Edge 305 this post only serves as a little info to anyone looking at the Edge 200
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My vote is for the Edge 500. It just plain works. Haven't had a problem in the 5 years I have been using one.
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Originally Posted by KBentley57 View Post
And that my friends is the definition of being a ******, example provided.

In all seriousness, I'll never understand why people would do this, then gripe about the "20 somethings" who are being competitive.
Hey... I admitted to being an ass hat right up front in my post. I just would appreciate it if you wouldn't agree with me quite so enthusiastically!!

Seriously though... I have no problem with their being competitive. Nothing wrong with that at all. But it's important know when to dial it back and be polite. These guys start thumping their chests on these social no-drop rides when they outrun a bunch of brand new riders who still don't know to gear down when climbing a hill.

And I find it just good fun to mess with their egos. It's such a trivial thing that they find sooooo important.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
I don't use Strava. I haven't figured out how to lie on it.
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Me neither but I suspect other people have.
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Originally Posted by Flyboy718 View Post
That's the ForRunner 305 not the Garmin Edge 305. We are talking about the Edge 305
I did not realize there was an Edge 305. Functionally, it looks identical to the ForeRunner 305. The Forerunner had a hard life tracking platoon PT movement and really, really cut down on the "we ran 700 miles in 30 minutes across open country" BS.
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Originally Posted by brandon98 View Post
I did not realize there was an Edge 305. Functionally, it looks identical to the ForeRunner 305. The Forerunner had a hard life tracking platoon PT movement and really, really cut down on the "we ran 700 miles in 30 minutes across open country" BS.
You can bet I will be using the Edge 305 for my runs as well! It may suck to hold it in my hand but I am gonna do it...I am a redneck too, I bet I could come up with a way to strap it to my wrist!
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