As one of the 8, it's appreciated. Great to see these preserved, thanks for sharing. I'd love to hear more information on the bikes, the process, whatever. I just don't have the knowledge base to ask the intelligent questions...

But there's no controversy here. Iab has done a great job putting together these bikes, they are gorgeous, and there's not really much anyone can say about it. Okay, I could quibble with the BIM 39 saddle, but I'm not going there. As is, there's really not much to do or say about a thread like this, other than wow, great job, beautiful bikes, :thumb:, and so on.

If you want the thread to go on longer, start with the same photos, and a question like "what color should I paint this" or "water bottle braze-ons: seat tube or down tube?"

.... or what should I 'drew"?
[MENTION=57649]iab[/MENTION] Thank you for sharing these treasures! I like them both equally for what they are. I also appreciate that you can find these treasures and bring them back to decency as items for admiration. Please do show off!

I have grown to appreciate the true C&V items over time and don't really consider most of the items of discussion as being really C&V. It is more than just old but is not on the same plane as what these bikes represent. I would love to find and own a at least one from this vintage (1950ish - performance bike).

Great pleasure looking at these, and that's just the aesthetics, knowing that they will be ridden adds to the pleasure.

One would think, but that is the saddle that was on the bike in the early 60s. As the former owner told me, the Teruzzi's also had a shop somewhere in France. So while strongly Italian, there was a French connection.

You could also quibble about the road pedals if you like. :D

I did largely nothing to the Viscontea other than to clean it, and bar tape, and the big thing, replacing the rims. Unfortunately, the original rims, which I still have, are trashed, corroded and on one, spoke hole was pulled through. Cool rims, a red label Fiamme without ferrules, something I have never seen before. So I figure the green label Fiamme without ferrules are a good substitute. Even tracked down some Stella spokes for the rebuild. Tires are Dugast piste. Close enough for me.

The purchase was a surprise. The owner originally didn't want to sell because his father rode it at the Vigorelli (see pictures of him in the link I provided, the kid with the big goofy smile). Then 6 months later he emailed and said it was time. Unfortunately for me, I had just tapped out the bike fund 3 months earlier by buying the Pecorari frame. I had to scramble for the cash, but I knew I couldn't let the Viscontea get away.

I wanted a cambio corsa to go along with the Vittoria Margherita and Gran Sport, kind of the trifecta of great Italian derailleurs. The Pecorari popped up, in my size range, original finish and I kind of like the obscure builders. At the very least, they come at a much lower price than a "name". Construction is still well done. I particularly like the chainstay bridge. And I had most of the bits needed to build it up.

Those are beauties, you must ride them, but have someone take a video of your first-ever Cambio shift!

I am just not flexible enough, even for the longer rod "tourist" version.
What a relief to avoid one for that reason.
I admire the whole concept of how they work, just that, admire.
We cable shift guys are to cambio corsa riders what friction is to index.

Holy crap, Dave. Those are both great. What doodads are you in need of?

:wtf:Are you sure you have that the right way around? :twitchy:

Magnificent! And now that I know where your flickr account is, I can oogle the rest of your goodies!

Don't be afraid to shift the cambio corsa. Just don't do it at a very fast speed, at least the first time. The scary thing is reaching down and feeling for the levers-practice pretend shifts until you can know just where they are. I got a chance to ride one at my local paint huffer-he had one and let me test ride it in the parking lot. I was afraid I'd stick my fingers into the spokes.

make that 9 ! That Viscontea...ARRRH ! Thanks for showing.

The Viscontea needs some Balilla toe clips but JB has some for me. Some beat-down white or off white Binda straps. Sheffield track pedals (nice to have, not got to have). The spokes need to be tied and soldered. And a seat collar clamp that fits better.

The Pecorari also needs a seat collar clamp that fits. Longer stem. Levers that are less 30s and more 40s/50s.

Dyslexia.

I am sure there were guys running the Cambio Corsa who thought cable controlled derailleurs were silly.

Just want to echo everyone's praise. These bikes look wonderuflly restored.

Aw-reet!