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Old 05-28-15, 11:40 AM
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Actually, the fork decals make me think PX-60 ...
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A PX60 would have a tab for mounting a bottle generator.
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It's the color, rather than the absence of a generator mounting tab that makes me wonder. PX 60s tend to be gold metallic.
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Somewhere around '75 Peugeot began phasing out chrome rear stays and half chrome fork legs, they also began phasing out Reynolds decals on the fork. The frameset in question has everything one would look for if it had no paint.

Proper fork crown? Check.
Proper seat say caps? Check.
Proper lugs? Check.
Proper drop outs? Check.
Lack of braze-ons? Check.

An absense of any one of those items and sometimes any 2 doesn't exclude frameset or bicycles from being a PX10.

Looking at the frameset as it sits I see several details that scream 'high end/PX10'. First is the fork crown, I believe that's a high end Nervex. Keep in mind that some early PX10's slipped through with UO8 style crowns!! Second, are the seat stays caps, they look PX10. Third, are the seat stay cap and fork decals, WC striping indicates high-end.

Putting it all together I say it's a PX10. There's absolutely nothing that would exclude it from being a PX.
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It's tough to go modern when you have a derailleur hanger that will only accept vintage derailleurs.
Which is where this comes in - Park Tool Co. TAP-10 : Frame Tap : Frame & Fork Tools
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Originally Posted by kunsunoke
That doesn't solve the 'stop' issue.


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That doesn't solve the 'stop' issue.
No, but careful use of a file or Dremel tool solves the stop issue.

I used the latter.
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Which pretty much destroys the integrity and original nature of the frame, IMO. But it was commonly done back in the day.
In this day and age, though, when most of us recognize the value in keeping these classic old French frames intact by not defacing them, there are alternatives. Like Simplex derailleurs on the second hand market.

Or somewhat complicated measures, like this:

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Originally Posted by non-fixie
It's the color, rather than the absence of a generator mounting tab that makes me wonder. PX 60s tend to be gold metallic.
Gold?
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois
It's tough to go modern when you have a derailleur hanger that will only accept vintage derailleurs.
Taking a French frame modern is not impossible, but not cheap and for a dedicated mechanic.
Seatpost diameter, dropout style, rear triangle width, steerer diameter, seat tube outer diameter, bottom bracket threading will all provide twists and turns.
If you want to do it on a budget, sell this one off and find a British frame.
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois
Gold?
Gold. No generator tab.

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I can't understand how you conclude that his frame is a PX60 because they made some gold ones when his isn't gold. It's silver.

The generator in the catalog picture is attached to a tab. You can just see part of it
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois
I can't understand how you conclude that his frame is a PX60 because they made some gold ones when his isn't gold. It's silver.

The generator in the catalog picture is attached to a tab. You can just see part of it
The reason I mentioned the PX 60 in post # 26 was because of the fork decals. PX 10s tend to have Reynolds fork decals, whereas the PX 60 has the 'French Flag Arrow' decals. That's basically it.

WRT the generator tab: I have one of those rear light / generator sets pictured in the brochure above. They clamp straight onto the seat stay, without the need for a mounting tab. Looking at the picture again, I see that you may be right, in that there's a tab under it.

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One thing which would tell you more is the seat post diameter - French 531 would take a 26.4.

Here's an original '74 PX10 I've had for awhile (much too small for me, but I couldn't resist grabbing it..), which might help with identification:


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