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Flatted a tubular already. Fix or seal??

Old 05-16-15, 03:30 PM
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Flatted a tubular already. Fix or seal??

After only 100 miles or riding tubulars, I flatted one :-/. Vittoria Corsa Elite. I put a spare YJ tire on.

I've read some directions on repairing it, but on this Vittoria tire, the base tape is pretty flush with the rest of the tire. No lip to speak. How does one get the base tape off?

Also for such a small puncture, should I just skip the repair and see if a sealant will work??
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Do you have tire savers on the bike? If not, rootboy is taking orders at the moment.

I am not familiar with the tire, but, in general, once you've located the puncture you'll need to peal off a few inches of the tape to access the threads. I've never used sealant, so I can't comment.
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Sealant first.

If it doesn't work, repair. And for repair, this is a good thread, Tubular Repair - Weight Weenies
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Rootboy's tiresaver thread: http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ring-time.html
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+1 rootboy

If you spend the time repairing, get the thinnest patch you can. Sealant for the cheapo's.

Back to rootboy's tire savers. Last evening was out and of course my blindness directs me right over a pile of scrap metal, sheet stock on the side of the road. Cling, clangin' nasty sounds, little bits fling out and I'm thinking to myself... oh scheeit. No tire savers gonna' save an idiot. I carried on and goodness no flat. I think they are old Vitt's of some sort. haha
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Old 05-16-15, 06:14 PM
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Thanks for the mention, fellas.

BTW. It's been many moons since I've repaired a tubular tire. And never used sealant. How does the presence of sealant inside affect the repair process, if at all?
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Sew - up tire devotees tended to buy tires by the Dozen and when they ran through the batch, they spent a day repairing punctures, and re sewing the tires..


TuFo A CZ company makes a tire with a sealant in the design , its a airtight rubber lined tire rather than a sewn closed traditional type,

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Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
How does the presence of sealant inside affect the repair process, if at all?
Makes it messy.
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sealant in a sew up**********
oh the shame of it all
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Originally Posted by iab View Post
Sealant first.

If it doesn't work, repair. And for repair, this is a good thread, Tubular Repair - Weight Weenies
That looks like a gall bladder operation. Clinchers FTW!
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Originally Posted by KJK View Post
That looks like a gall bladder operation. Clinchers FTW!
If you can rebuild a wheel bearing you can patch a tubular.
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Originally Posted by Road Fan View Post
If you can rebuild a wheel bearing you can patch a tubular.
If you can repair a tubular, you can do a gall bladder operation.
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Originally Posted by rootboy View Post
If you can repair a tubular, you can do a gall bladder operation.
It's damn good that I didn't have a mouthful of tea...
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I'm no hack at fixing thing, but never had any satisfactory results from patching a sew up. Same goes for sealer. I write them off as a bad day and buy new ones. Your results may vary.
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Originally Posted by ppg677 View Post
After only 100 miles or riding tubulars, I flatted one :-/. Vittoria Corsa Elite.
Oh, I was just ready to order a pair of these. But, then again, the right road debris can defeat any tire. At least it wasn't a casing blow-out. That's how cheap tubies often fail. And the Corsa Elite's are reputed to be almost as good as the top shelf stuff, but at a moderate price.

I can swing 50 bucks a tire, but not 110.
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It's damn good that I didn't have a mouthful of tea...
If you can do a gall bladder operation, you can drink tea.

I've done one tubular repair. Vittoria's rim strip was danged hard to peel away and I ended up pulling it from the end. Sort of a pain to get it back down. But the tire went back together and holds air at high pressure. OTOH since I started riding sew-ups I've had pretty good luck in general.
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Originally Posted by CroMo Mike View Post
I'm no hack at fixing thing, but never had any satisfactory results from patching a sew up. Same goes for sealer. I write them off as a bad day and buy new ones. Your results may vary.
I will gladly take any and all flat sew ups I can get
I don't mind spend some time and effort patching them
if it keeps my bikes on the road
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What's the big fuss about? Back in the day I was a poor student and rode sewups whether I was racing, touring or commuting. Nobody I knew at the time would have ever dreamed of throwing sewups away simply because they flatted. When touring, I often repaired flats sitting on the side of the road. It may seem a difficult job the first time you do it, but after that it becomes routine. The only really hard parts of fixing sewup flats are: 1) locating the puncture to determine where to cut; and, 2) pulling the rim tape off. Number 1 just takes a little patience. Number 2 just takes some careful work with razor and pliers.
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