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Seat post does not hold adjustment
The culprit is a Simplex SX 1500.
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8535/...883010d16a.jpg It does not hold the saddle adjustment. No matter how tight I make it, the saddle inevitably ends up nose tilted up. Anyone else experience this and do you have a solution? |
Does it happen with different kinds of saddles? Just wanting to rule out that it's not somehow a saddle rail diameter problem.
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Check that the two clamp halves are not bottoming out.
I have found steel rails are a must. Not Campagnolo secure, but French and lighter. |
My vote is to check it with other saddles. I've had similar problems with new saddles on vintage seatposts.
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Might be a bit tough as about the only thing I ride is Brooks Pro. I do have an Idéale that I can try. Thanks for the suggestion. Here's hoping my butt likes the Idéale. It's a 2000
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I have a post that's similar to that, maybe a slightly different model. I eventually replaced the lateral bolt with the axle bolt of a Razor Scooter. I know, I know. You kinda have to muscle your way past the gag reflex sometimes. But it worked.
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Originally Posted by rhm
(Post 17846775)
I have a post that's similar to that, maybe a slightly different model. I eventually replaced the lateral bolt with the axle bolt of a Razor Scooter. I know, I know. You kinda have to muscle your way past the gag reflex sometimes. But it worked.
To get mine sharpie pen tell tale secure, I had to lubricate the threads and really really torque down on the bolts. |
I had some issues like this as well, the paste that's used for installing carbon posts/stems/bars did the trick.
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Originally Posted by CV-6
(Post 17846680)
Here's hoping my butt likes the Idéale. It's a 2000
Ugh. The 2000 is a hatchet, IMO. |
Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 17846078)
Check that the two clamp halves are not bottoming out.
I have found steel rails are a must. Not Campagnolo secure, but French and lighter. But, if the clamp has been slipping, it's probably toast. The lands are most likely worn from the friction and won't make a good purchase anymore. |
Originally Posted by rootboy
(Post 17847217)
Compared with your Pro's ?
Ugh. The 2000 is a hatchet, IMO. Unfortunately with one eBay seller who plastered the search with expensive ones, everyone now believes they are worth a fortune. |
Originally Posted by Velognome
(Post 17847249)
+1 on bottoming out. Make a couple passes with a file on the flats, this ensure that clamp is pulling tight, to bottoming out and without the need to over torque the bolt which will inevitable end with if failing in the middle of ride on the hottest day of the year.
But, if the clamp has been slipping, it's probably toast. The lands are most likely worn from the friction and won't make a good purchase anymore. |
Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 17846877)
I am pretty sure CV-6's seatpost uses two bolts, the nuts are inside and face each other. ...
For what it's worth, I've found some Idéale saddles used thinner rails than Brooks, so when mounting an Idéale I sometimes have to wrap something around the rail to get the clamp tight. That's not the same problem as OP is having, but perhaps related? An alternative to filing is to add a something like a washer to take up extra space and grip, such as a disk of coarse sandpaper. |
Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 17846877)
I am pretty sure CV-6's seatpost uses two bolts, the nuts are inside and face each other.
To get mine sharpie pen tell tale secure, I had to lubricate the threads and really really torque down on the bolts. https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8402/8...de25fb3d25.jpg I do have a Simplex post that is as you describe. It works fine. And a correction. The saddle is a 2001. Not that it makes much difference for the issue. |
Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 17847506)
Ideale 90.
Unfortunately with one eBay seller who plastered the search with expensive ones, everyone now believes they are worth a fortune. RARE Vintage Ideale Rebour 90 Speciale Competition Saddle with Flat Alloy Rails | eBay |
Originally Posted by CV-6
(Post 17846680)
Might be a bit tough as about the only thing I ride is Brooks Pro. I do have an Idéale that I can try. Thanks for the suggestion. Here's hoping my butt likes the Idéale. It's a 2000
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CV-6-
I have exactly that post on a newly restored Bertin C 37 and it is equipped with a 1970s Brooks Professional. I weigh 185 lbs and have no slippage problem. The seat rails are a tight fit but the whole thing snugged down and stayed that way. Is there sufficient friction between the riveted on cradle halves and the post itself? Perhaps roughing up with coarse sandpaper? RE: Ideale 2000, 2001, 2003 etc. Don't. If you fit a Pro and are comfortable, you will experience severe discomfort with the plastic Ideale variants. The leather ones should be fine as I have done both. Just say no to plastic. |
I would try some double-sided sandpaper "washers" between the clamp/post interface, or maybe on either side of that center spacer. That looks like the post on my '82 PX10, but I haven't had any issues.
And I don't mind the 2001 saddle attached to that bike :) |
Try some carbon assembly paste and loctite on the threads.
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Alternatively, once you have the saddle positioned like you want, you could cut some sort of plug (wood, rubber) to fill in the slot below the bolt and jam 'em in.
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Originally Posted by CV-6
(Post 17847570)
Photo below of the seat clamp.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8402/8...de25fb3d25.jpg I do have a Simplex post that is as you describe. It works fine. And a correction. The saddle is a 2001. Not that it makes much difference for the issue. The assembly really depends on the center spacer to transmit the counter force from the bolt, and the nut potentially might just dig in more rather than keep the system tight…. I would consider a brass shim washer to provide a tight fit for the hourglass shaped spacer, maybe even going as far as to dress the inside of the clamps to increase their surface area in contact with the "hourglass". And a grade 8 metric allen head cap screw in place of that OEM bolt. Or, locate an earlier Simplex post Or, admit defeat and go Campagnolo. |
Originally Posted by repechage
(Post 17848893)
I have not followed the later versions of Simplex seat post, I can see how that design would be easier to assemble but less effective.
The assembly really depends on the center spacer to transmit the counter force from the bolt, and the nut potentially might just dig in more rather than keep the system tight…. I would consider a brass shim washer to provide a tight fit for the hourglass shaped spacer, maybe even going as far as to dress the inside of the clamps to increase their surface area in contact with the "hourglass". And a grade 8 metric allen head cap screw in place of that OEM bolt. Or, locate an earlier Simplex post Or, admit defeat and go Campagnolo. |
Just a bad design on Simplex's part.......
Sure, slots at the clamp going north/south = a big invitation for it to eventually slip with road shock. Just replace it with a nice JPR two bolt, micro adjust post and it will never slip! |
Originally Posted by MileHighMark
(Post 17848772)
Try some carbon assembly paste and loctite on the threads.
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