Nishiki International - which year is this?
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Nishiki International - which year is this?
I have searched high and low and I can't seen to find which year Nishiki International this is. It is fairly close to the 1981 catalog but the DT shifters are mounted here on top and not on the sides. Anyone want to give a guess? (edit: I looked up the serial number and it says it was a 1983 bike but that does NOT correspond with the catalog scan below) It was outfitted with Suntour Cyclone Mk II. Its in good condition and I am also trying to find out a value as it is too big for a riding buddy but looks to fit me well.
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Last edited by guygadois; 06-02-15 at 11:49 PM.
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All of your components have date codes. My guess is your bike is a 1984 (frame built in late 1983). Look them up if you are interested. Value here is $200 to $225 in ready to ride condition, CA should enjoy a premium above that. Exact year will have no bearing on value. Cables look rusty, hard to tell. If so, you need to change them out to get full market value.
In addition, catalog scans are often WAY off. Realize catalogs go to the printer MONTHS ahead of actual production. Models change, components change, etc. Its not uncommon to find errors. But this many differences I would guess your bike is a 1984.
I have had several models that did not make the catalog at all (model added after the catalog was sent to the printers).
Some companies had notorious gaps in age between the frame serial number age and the actual model age. I have had Schwinns and Raleighs where the frame was three or four years OLDER than the actual model. Companies like Schwinn who had very poor inventory management often had left over frames that were several years old when they finally built them up into a complete bike.
Typically the Japanese manufacturers were much better at inventory management, so you would not see such gaps. But you would see frames made late in one year ending up being the following year model. So a one year offset is very common.
In addition, catalog scans are often WAY off. Realize catalogs go to the printer MONTHS ahead of actual production. Models change, components change, etc. Its not uncommon to find errors. But this many differences I would guess your bike is a 1984.
I have had several models that did not make the catalog at all (model added after the catalog was sent to the printers).
Some companies had notorious gaps in age between the frame serial number age and the actual model age. I have had Schwinns and Raleighs where the frame was three or four years OLDER than the actual model. Companies like Schwinn who had very poor inventory management often had left over frames that were several years old when they finally built them up into a complete bike.
Typically the Japanese manufacturers were much better at inventory management, so you would not see such gaps. But you would see frames made late in one year ending up being the following year model. So a one year offset is very common.
Last edited by wrk101; 06-03-15 at 06:39 AM.
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Thanks for the reply. Cables should be replaced. A bit of rust on upper cable guides but otherwise in fine shape. I understand the International model was very good in some years to average for others. This bike says it has Tange Double Butted tubing. How would this model rate to other bikes in that early 1980s mass produced bike era?
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It's a great touring bike. Smooth ride. If it is the double-butted cro-moly frame, even better. It fares very well against other bikes of the era, being a top-of-the-line bicycle for Nishiki.
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