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Old 06-05-15, 12:52 PM
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Attaching frame pump to top tube, or other pump options.

I have an old frame pump. Not sure the brand, but the nozzle is made by Campagnolo.

It fits great when on the seat tube and I assume this is how they were intended to be used. But I need two water bottles for long rides, and behind the seat is taken up by a Tubi bag I just bought (which barely fits a tubular spare let alone a CO2 canister).

I'm trying to attach it to the top tube instead. Velcro is needed, but even with one piece of velcro I'm not fully confident in the security and it looks kind of tacky. Any other ideas?

Alternatively any other pump I should consider?
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That's a Silca pump. It is designed to mount the other way around, and the pump handle has a hole in the end that attaches to a brazed-on pump peg that most Italian frames of the era have on the back of the head tube:



It doesn't appear that your frame has this braze-on. If I were you, I'd find a mushroom cap clamp-on either on eBay or at the co-op. Then I'd attach that to the front end of the top tube and switch the pump around. Place it tight enough so the pump's spring tension holds it in place.



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Slightly better photo of the mushroom cap mounting:

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Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky View Post
That's a Silca pump. It is designed to mount the other way around, and the pump handle has a hole in the end that attaches to a brazed-on pump peg that most Italian frames of the era have on the back of the head tube:


On my Specialized touring bike ('84 Sequoia) that lacked this fitting I just put a zip-tie around the head tube and positioned the nub of it facing back so it holds my Zefal HP-X frame pump in place. That should work equally well with the OP's Silca pump.
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Originally Posted by prathmann View Post
On my Specialized touring bike ('84 Sequoia) that lacked this fitting I just put a zip-tie around the head tube and positioned the nub of it facing back so it holds my Zefal HP-X frame pump in place. That should work equally well with the OP's Silca pump.
Nice solution.
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Some folks like to mount theirs between the rear QR lever and top of the rear triangle, but you'd need a shorter pump:


pump 001
by Black Mountain Cycles, on Flickr

Black Mountain Cycles: More on the frame pump...
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Velcro works well if the pump is long enough to fit right on the top tube.
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Could possibly get creative with toe clip straps. I've never tried that, and would go with the "umbrella clips" before attempting it.
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Not all my frames have the nub. For the ones that does, the spring in the pump rattles all the time. Irritating sound when the rest of the bike is in stealth mode by design! I am about to dispense with it mounted on the TT and remove the second cage to mount it on the ST.
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+1 to turning pump around with pump head by seat cluster.

If you don't want to go the route of adding a metal umbrella clip (which can sometimes damage paint), another option is the vintage Zefal plastic pump peg: Ebay for sale link.



Originally Posted by SJX426 View Post
Not all my frames have the nub. For the ones that does, the spring in the pump rattles all the time. Irritating sound when the rest of the bike is in stealth mode by design! I am about to dispense with it mounted on the TT and remove the second cage to mount it on the ST.
Could it be your pump is not compressed enough (i.e., need a slightly longer pump)?
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Originally Posted by gaucho777 View Post
If you don't want to go the route of adding a metal umbrella clip (which can sometimes damage paint), another option is the vintage Zefal plastic pump peg: Ebay for sale link.[/IMG]
Yes, I like those Zefal pegs.



"Marwi" also made a very similar one:

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Nope, not the spring next to the handle but the one in the pump on the other side of the retainer.

Originally Posted by gaucho777 View Post
+1 to turning pump around with pump head by seat cluster.

If you don't want to go the route of adding a metal umbrella clip (which can sometimes damage paint), another option is the vintage Zefal plastic pump peg: Ebay for sale link.





Could it be your pump is not compressed enough (i.e., need a slightly longer pump)?
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I would not defile one of my vintage bikes with a modern plastic pump peg, but that's just me. I use vintage chrome clamp on pegs. They can mar the paint under them but it doesn't show, just like all of the other things that are clamped to vintage frames.
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois View Post
I would not defile one of my vintage bikes with a modern plastic pump peg, but that's just me. I use vintage chrome clamp on pegs. They can mar the paint under them but it doesn't show, just like all of the other things that are clamped to vintage frames.
Who said anything about a modern plastic pump peg? I know most of your bikes are from the 70s or earlier, but I've had the plastic Zefal pump peg since the 80s. It's period correct! Besides, it'll take more than a bit of plastic to defile a bike with neon pink splatter & fade paint.
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I have one bike from the eighties. I don't consider it to be vintage. It's just an old bike, so anything goes. I even converted to index shifting.

I'm not trying to convert anyone to my way of thinking. That's just the way I feel about it and I'm too old to change.

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I just got this one for my Univega. It works great and looks pretty good. I put a piece of rubber under the strap to protect the paint.

Rixen & Kaul PUMPfix - fixing set for pumps

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Originally Posted by Grand Bois View Post
I would not defile one of my vintage bikes with a modern plastic pump peg, but that's just me. I use vintage chrome clamp on pegs. They can mar the paint under them but it doesn't show, just like all of the other things that are clamped to vintage frames.
I am with you, but at least the pegs and umbrella clips I have (2 of each) are sized for the seat tube, not top tube.
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One pet peeve I have with brazed on pump pegs at the head tube is, they almost never result in a pump perfectly parallel with the top tube.....Maybe call me a perfectionist, but frankly, it just look wonky.........
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Or another alternative.... put the silca on the seat tube and get an adapter to mount the bottle cage on your handlebars. Minoura makes one. $7 on eBay.
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get a small modern pump that fits with the water bottle cage this is Lenzyne

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Originally Posted by squirtdad View Post
get a small modern pump that fits with the water bottle cage this is Lenzyne

But those pumps are not "C&V!......
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2 Zefal Doodads hold the pump securely:





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get a small modern pump that fits with the water bottle cage this is Lenzyne

Originally Posted by Chombi View Post
But those pumps are not "C&V!......
I am C&V enough to make up for that. My first book on bikes was Anybodies bike book....original version
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Originally Posted by gaucho777 View Post
Who said anything about a modern plastic pump peg? I know most of your bikes are from the 70s or earlier, but I've had the plastic Zefal pump peg since the 80s. It's period correct! Besides, it'll take more than a bit of plastic to defile a bike with neon pink splatter & fade paint.
Honestly, I had one of those Zefal plastic pump pegs in the late 70s. They are C&V and period correct. They were good BITD when I'd outfit my touring bike to go touring. It need twin H20 bottles for summer weather. The Zefal pump was moved to the top tube and held with a black plastic thingey and a velcro or other strap.


Even so, I can kind of understand the reluctance to put a cheap plastic thingey on your bike. Chrome is cooler for sure.
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Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky View Post
It doesn't appear that your frame has this braze-on. If I were you, I'd find a mushroom cap clamp-on either on eBay or at the co-op. Then I'd attach that to the front end of the top tube and switch the pump around. Place it tight enough so the pump's spring tension holds it in place.


that's what I've been doing for a number of years on one of my bikes. Seems to work fine.
The only detail that has to be dealt with is that most (all?) of these pump clips were designed to be used on down or seat tubes, which are slightly larger diameter. I had to shim the top tube with some clear protective tape. Not the perfect solution, but good enough??




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