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Old 06-05-15, 06:03 PM
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Anybody ever tried these with a top normal fd? The Spirt, for example. Unless I hear otherwise, I'm shortly going to try it.
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I have used that set up and the shifting worked fine. Been years ago though. Roger
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Thanks Roger,
If it worked then, it will likely still work now. Hands down my favorite shifters and fd, though I've never used them together. I'll put on a first generation Cyclone for the rear.
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I have used them with Cyclone, CycloneII, and ARX. I can't imagine it not working. Best.
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Symmetric shifters would have a front top-normal derailer moving in the opposite directon that you would want, naturally, in response to movement of the rear derailer's shift lever.

If that is what someone wants to call working "fine", then so be it.
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Well that was the reason for the question. I love those shifters as much as I love the top normal derailleur, but didn't know if they would work together. The first, very short test ride I did showed the fd slipping into the big chain ring all by itself. Don't know if I can adjust that out or not, and if not, I guess I'll go back to the Shimano shifters I had on it.before. I likd those too.
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Those shifters came in both versions. I used a Spirit high normal with a ARX rear derailleur without problems. The Symmetric shifter and front derailleur were off the same donor bike. Roger
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On my second, equally short test ride, I observed no negative effects.
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I really enjoyed those backwards front derailleurs. I don't know why they didn't become mainstream.
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Originally Posted by noglider
I really enjoyed those backwards front derailleurs. I don't know why they didn't become mainstream.
I had a normal-high SunTour front derailleur on my 1971 Nishiki Competition, but I eventually moved the derailleur, which still in my parts bin, to another bike when I put a Cyclone front on the Nishiki. It worked fine for me on a small-to-medium size step, such as 50-47, 50-42, or even 49-46-43.
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Originally Posted by rhenning
Those shifters came in both versions. I used a Spirit high normal with a ARX rear derailleur without problems. The Symmetric shifter and front derailleur were off the same donor bike. Roger
Well that would make sense, coming from Suntour, who was the only one supplying top-normal front mech's.

I've used a top normal front derailer with half-step, with 54-44t and with 54-36t, all on the same bike. No shifting problems to report using standard DT friction shifters.
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What other top normals are out there, besides the Spirt?
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
What other top normals are out there, besides the Spirt?
The Compe-V is the only other one I know of. Check out disraeligears.
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to use symmetrics with a high-normal fd, remove the rear shift lever and its washers/fittings from the right 'boss,' rotate the boss a half turn, then replace everything.

be extremely careful when doing so. here's is one time where you must be very deliberate in removal and remounting the little pieces.
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Originally Posted by eschlwc
to use symmetrics with a high-normal fd, remove the rear shift lever and its washers/fittings from the right 'boss,' rotate the boss a half turn, then replace everything.

be extremely careful when doing so. here's is one time where you must be very deliberate in removal and remounting the little pieces.
Thanks for this great advice. I just packed it yesterday, for the upcoming trip north, so I'll have to do it on the other end. I'll be riding in western Virginia for two weeks, where it will likely be noticed. Here in pancake land it really makes no difference, as I do very little shifting.
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^ have i got a freewheel for you ...

a suntour pro compe 6-speed 16-22t. who uses this thing? it's like the nicest freewheel i've seen, and i can't use it here in seattle. way too hilly here.
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^ have i got a freewheel for you ...

a suntour pro compe 6-speed 16-22t. who uses this thing? it's like the nicest freewheel i've seen, and i can't use it here in seattle. way too hilly here.
Perfect, and I love the corncob look. Uniglide? What do you want for it?
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^ cool. i sent you an email via the address in your profile.

i forgot to mention i need some suntour dt shifters (with band/clamp) if you have a set.

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[QUOTE=eschlwc;18018598]^ cool. i sent you an email via the address in your profile.

i forgot to mention i need some suntour dt shifters (with band/clamp) if you have a set.

I have a set of Suntour power shifters an also a set of Silver Shifters on a nos Suntour band. Both very nice. Pm me if you are interested. Thanks
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^ cool. i sent you an email via the address in your profile.

i forgot to mention i need some suntour dt shifters (with band/clamp) if you have a set.

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The only Suntour downtube shifters I have are symmetric, clamp on. But I just yesterday promised the mounting stud to Saguaro. Apparently it's an odd size.
I replied to your email.
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^ thanks, belize.

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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
What other top normals are out there, besides the Spirt?
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The Compe-V is the only other one I know of. Check out disraeligears.
The SunTour "SL" was also top-normal.

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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
The SunTour "SL" was also top-normal.
Oh right, I remember that one now. It had an aluminum cage, which seems foolish, but I don't remember them wearing out. I liked that one.
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