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iab 06-06-15 04:49 PM

In chronological order
 
1933 ------ 1948/49 ------ 1950ish ------ 1953ish ------ 1959ish ------ 2009 - I was bored today.


https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/305/18...e4fbc348_h.jpgChronological Order 01 by iabisdb, on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/534/17...454e805f_h.jpgChronological Order 02 by iabisdb, on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/560/18...4e8d785d_h.jpgChronological Order 03 by iabisdb, on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8881/1...b5155ad4_h.jpgChronological Order 04 by iabisdb, on Flickr

gomango 06-06-15 04:54 PM

Looks cool.

I'm afraid to do that though.

Mrs. Gomango is super concrete-sequential and would use this to id new items. :)

KonAaron Snake 06-06-15 04:57 PM

Fun idea, though I feel like each of these warrants a full spread/centerfold. I'd love to see details and hear more about these.

iab 06-06-15 05:11 PM

You have seen all of them before Aaron. But if you want the nickel tour ...


1933 Frejus Model A - same year, make and model of Gino Bartali's first pro bike - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57627790534336

1948/49 Viscontea pista - owned originally by the Teruzzi family, raced at the Vigorelli - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57650164532378

1950ish Pecorari cambio corsa - small builder out of Emilia Reggio - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57651905664892

1953ish Bianchi Selvino - "hot rodded", Sunday-going-to-church bike - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57645260502157

1959ish Cinelli Model B - same year, make and model as Viktor Kapitonov's gold medal bike - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57627790730860

2009 Cinelli XCR - stainless steel, serial #002 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...57627792847458

KonAaron Snake 06-06-15 05:31 PM

Of course I have...but if you're going to show them off, do it right. Bikes like these can be appreciated time after time. LOVE the Frejus.

Peugeotlover 06-06-15 05:43 PM

Great collection, Iab. The Pecorari and the '59 Cinelli are my favorites. Thanks for showing the flickr album.

(That looks just like my furnace room.)

St33lWh33ls 06-06-15 05:58 PM

Love the Viscontea, something really cool about the intact period decals. There is so much right about that bike, plus I have a thing for vintage track iron.:)

Homebrew01 06-06-15 06:21 PM

Nice.
I don't quite get how you shift the rear cogs on the 1933 Frejus Model A. Looks like a rod that pivots to push the "high" or "low" tab to move the chain. But where do you control it ? That "handle" at the top of the idler arm ?

I was surprised to see wingnuts instead of QR levers on the 1959ish Cinelli Model B. Weren't qr levers common by then ? Or only on Campy hubs ?

Desertdweller 06-06-15 06:31 PM

Fabulous.

iab 06-06-15 06:38 PM

The lever is for tensioning the chain only.

My pictures show a gen 1 and gen 2 Vittoria Margherita. The gen 1 is "correct". With gen 1, you use your hand to move the chain while back pedaling. With gen 2 the triangle on top of the lever twists and moves the flappers on the chain stay which in turn moves the chain while back pedaling.

repechage 06-06-15 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 17871614)
Nice.
I don't quite get how you shift the rear cogs on the 1933 Frejus Model A. Looks like a rod that pivots to push the "high" or "low" tab to move the chain. But where do you control it ? That "handle" at the top of the idler arm ?

I was surprised to see wingnuts instead of QR levers on the 1959ish Cinelli Model B. Weren't qr levers common by then ? Or only on Campy hubs ?

Also, regarding early shifting systems:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AIZhSNdO_Zo

YouTube video of cambio corsa in action, note one must backpedal to shift, so you better have some forward momentum if you are going uphill as you have to coast and pedal backwards to shift. One must shift well before need. No shifting under power.
And do something I cannot do, reach that far down and back on the right hand side.

KonAaron Snake 06-06-15 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by iab (Post 17871644)
The lever is for tensioning the chain only.

My pictures show a gen 1 and gen 2 Vittoria Margherita. The gen 1 is "correct". With gen 1, you use your hand to move the chain while back pedaling. With gen 2 the triangle on top of the lever twists and moves the flappers on the chain stay which in turn moves the chain while back pedaling.

I would be both terrified and excited to try that. I guess you need gloves on to move the chain.

lostarchitect 06-06-15 06:49 PM

Some really nice bikes you have there. Thanks for sharing.

romperrr 06-06-15 07:48 PM

Great collection. I admire the amount of detail you photograph.

Steve Whitlatch 06-06-15 08:06 PM

You have a really awesome collection. :thumb:

SquidPuppet 06-06-15 08:14 PM

Nice bikes. Thanks for the links.

iab 06-06-15 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake (Post 17871667)
I guess you need gloves on to move the chain.

Nah. Just no white bar tape.

crank_addict 06-06-15 09:21 PM

Always a treat to see iab riding them. No way could I pick a favorite, all are top of the podium!

randyjawa 06-06-15 10:11 PM

This thread comes at a timely time, for me. I love the bicycles and the simplicity of presentation. Well done.

molten 06-06-15 10:37 PM

As I speak about the Intent in why the Thread was begun:

Anyone (esp a bike owner) who be "bored" who wants to find a way to spend time: do it via detailing further cleanliness of the bicycles.
NO owner ever will protest that.
Never had that thought, HUH?

Fahrenheit531 06-07-15 01:00 AM

Man I love #5 . Gorgeous.

fiatjeepdriver 06-07-15 01:10 AM

I'm a big fan of all of those but I'd really love to have that XCR. Out of curiosity how does it ride?

iab 06-07-15 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by molten (Post 17872081)
NO owner ever will protest that.

Ummm, I would. I hate maintenance. I'd rather just ride. The Frejus needs a good once over and I have been putting it off. When I was putting away my bike from the ride yesterday, I noticed they almost in the "correct" order. Had nothing better to do so I moved them around, and Bob's yer uncle.

iab 06-07-15 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by fiatjeepdriver (Post 17872227)
I'm a big fan of all of those but I'd really love to have that XCR. Out of curiosity how does it ride?

Surprisingly, quite similar to the Cinelli Model B. The wheelbase is shorter making it more agile. But even with the stiff wheelset, very smooth over road chatter.

Sir_Name 06-07-15 06:47 AM

I'll never tire of seeing these. Most excellent.


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