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Old 04-21-05, 03:31 PM
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Yet another Motobecane

Oh boy my first half way decent bike. I should have posted this in the catch of the day thread because it was really a great catch. But Instead I have a couple of questions. Just got a Motobecane Grand record and here's what I know so far

* Reynolds 531 frame+ fork,
* Nervex lugs.
* Campagnolo Nuovo Record derailer set.
* Sun Tour 14-26 5-speed freewheel.
* Weinmann side-pull brakes.
* Brooks pro saddle.
* StrongLight stem set
* Pivo stem + bars
* 52/42 cotterless cranks- not sure of the manufacturer?
* Schwinn approved made in France hubs
* Rigida front rim
*Super champion gentleman rear rim

My questions have to do with the wheels. I'm under the impression that the original wheels where 27 inch, mine are 700c. Are there any advantages in going back to 27"( inertia, smoothr ride, etc.)? Does anyone know which wheel sets came with the bike? Anyway I think a wheel upgrade is in order since I'm assuming the Schwinn approved made in France hubs are not that great. Should I try to find some decent hubs and have some wheels made up or just buy some new 700c wheels. It seem like there aren't too many choices when it comes to 27" anymore.

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Very nice bike, Crank looks like a T.A. to my inexperienced eye.
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Old 04-21-05, 04:00 PM
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Very nice bike.

If the rims are in good shape & the hubs are in good condition, ie hub races & cones are not pitted, I'd stick with those wheels. You'll have a much better selection of tires than with 27".

If you're determined to ditch the hubs, lace those rims onto something you like better. Rigida & Super Champion are very nice quality rims.
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Crank is likely a TA; you'll need a specialized crank remover (23mm opposed to the standard 22mm. Check first; a regular remover won't even thread in; it'll just drop in the overlarge opening. Check bike tools etc. for a TA remover.). TAs were standard for awhile on GRs. The Schwinn approved hubs are probably Normandys; not great (tho the Normandy Competitions are very very nice) but a capable hub. Schwinn approved= pretty bombproof. No real advantage to going to 27s; more variety in tire choices at 700. Very cool catch, one down from the top of the Moto line, only the Le Champion above it. Keep the bottom bracket overhauled; you want it to last. It may be swiss threaded, making replacement hard.
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I think this model originally came with sewup wheels. At least that is all I ever saw. Your wheels are fine replacements if in good condition.
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Wow I'm always amazed at the quality of the responses on this forum. This is stuff I really wanted to hear. If the cones and races are in good order then I wont ditch the wheels after all. I haven't had a chance to check them out yet but it does make sense that the originals where sewups. Thanks also for the crank id and the crank remover info.
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Hey, Nice wheels...almost,
I have all the original brochures from your bike, and just have to look up what came with it. I have a 25" Grand Record and it has Red Fiamme wheels with Campy hubs. The handlebars you have also need to be replaced to get back.
Still a fine ride.
I have the Grand Record, A Grand Touring, Super Mirage and need a Team Champion if you know of one in 25"frame.
When I find the paperwork, I will fill you in.
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Hey bear

I've been away so I missed your post. I would appreciate any info you have in your brochures. Yea I know what you mean about the homemade cowhorn bars, not quite in keeping with the original configuration. I kind'a like them though I riged one of my other bikes like this and find it comfortable for city riding.

Wow it looks like you have a stable of Moto's. I will certainly keep an eye out for a Team Champion and let you know. Although I consider myself lucky to find this one.

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Converting to 27" rims has the many disadvantages listed above, but it will slightly improve your braking leverage by shortening your effective brake reach by 4 mm.
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