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Old 06-30-15, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MZilliox
Wow, bike envy big time, that is amazing. those racks and fenders are stunning.
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99 serotta rapid tour

You've got a couple of EXCEPTIONAL machines yourself!

(that being said Flog00's bikes are always the cat's pyjamas)
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Originally Posted by Pemetic2006
I have no experience with Suntour - but will. I have a 1982 614 I bought a few weeks ago that I have yet to ride, except for a test ride before purchase. It has Suntour DT shifters, a Cyclone M II RD, and various other components. I love my 910 so I hope to enjoy the 614 as well.

My 910 is all Arabesque and I like but I have nothing really to compare it to, except lesser Shimano stuff.

I've gone back to look at that 730 a few times - beautiful bike.
I think you're really going to like the Cyclone stuff. I don't have any of the MII components- everything I see people talking about- it's nothing but good. And then you're going to find yourself looking sideways at the Arabesque stuff wishing it worked like the Suntour stuff did... and then you're going to start acquiring stuff and swapping stuff out. Just wait.

Your 910 is "tour" or "sport tour" geometry? I've never had the pleasure of one of those older TX style x1x series bikes.

My 730 is what passed for "racing" geometry in 1978- it's actually more laid back than my 1986 Trek 400 Elance sport tourer... It's quick, light and it's really not fatiguing, at least over the few 50+ mile rides I've been on with it. If I weren't carrying stuff, and with the exception of only one bottle boss- I'd say this bike makes a great long distance bike. As cushy as my tourers are- the 730 doesn't carry that mass, but still has a "compliance" to it.
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1972 Line Seeker CF Race Bike Designed and built by Larry Blake. #22 of estimated 300:



Well, the fork (Reynolds 531) and lugs are steel.......

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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
I think you're really going to like the Cyclone stuff. I don't have any of the MII components- everything I see people talking about- it's nothing but good. And then you're going to find yourself looking sideways at the Arabesque stuff wishing it worked like the Suntour stuff did... and then you're going to start acquiring stuff and swapping stuff out. Just wait.

Your 910 is "tour" or "sport tour" geometry? I've never had the pleasure of one of those older TX style x1x series bikes.

My 730 is what passed for "racing" geometry in 1978- it's actually more laid back than my 1986 Trek 400 Elance sport tourer... It's quick, light and it's really not fatiguing, at least over the few 50+ mile rides I've been on with it. If I weren't carrying stuff, and with the exception of only one bottle boss- I'd say this bike makes a great long distance bike. As cushy as my tourers are- the 730 doesn't carry that mass, but still has a "compliance" to it.

I thought that I noticed your 730 didn't have seat tube bottle bosses.
The 910 is a "sport tourer". It has the 44.5 cm chain stays and three sets of bosses for water bottles (one on the underside of the down tube). Interestingly, it has just a double crank set and a 13 -26(?) cassette. I thought about upgrading that cassette a bit but the 614 I bought has a triple and will be a bit more hill friendly. I've had the 910 since early 2011 and will likely keep it forever. I like it that much.
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Originally Posted by MZilliox
Wow, bike envy big time, that is amazing. those racks and fenders are stunning.
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I thought that I noticed your 730 didn't have seat tube bottle bosses.
The 910 is a "sport tourer". It has the 44.5 cm chain stays and three sets of bosses for water bottles (one on the underside of the down tube). Interestingly, it has just a double crank set and a 13 -26(?) cassette. I thought about upgrading that cassette a bit but the 614 I bought has a triple and will be a bit more hill friendly. I've had the 910 since early 2011 and will likely keep it forever. I like it that much.
That's really cool- it's a little longer than the regular TX geometry- otherwise the angles and stuff are the same.

I think if you were to change the crank to a triple- I'd suggest a Stronglight 99 (look for the "later" ones with the divots on the spider arms- they take a "normal" crank extractor) Otherwise there's the SR Apex triple which is the same size as the Stronglight 99. Both of those cranks have the chainrings that look super 70s'y and they're both super classy and super functional.

If you've got the Arabesque hubs... does that take a regular modern cassette? I've never given it much thought- but I did know that it was an early cassette system (rather than a freewheel- like most other bikes of that era).

BTW- how's the weight on yours? All 3 of my Class A tourers are relatively heavy- especially compared to the 730. The Voyageur SP is a Columbus SL/SP mix- it doesn't seem anywhere near as spritely- same as the Trek 720 with the 531C frame and I would expect the 620 to be a touch heavier with the 531CS.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
That's really cool- it's a little longer than the regular TX geometry- otherwise the angles and stuff are the same.

I think if you were to change the crank to a triple- I'd suggest a Stronglight 99 (look for the "later" ones with the divots on the spider arms- they take a "normal" crank extractor) Otherwise there's the SR Apex triple which is the same size as the Stronglight 99. Both of those cranks have the chainrings that look super 70s'y and they're both super classy and super functional.

If you've got the Arabesque hubs... does that take a regular modern cassette? I've never given it much thought- but I did know that it was an early cassette system (rather than a freewheel- like most other bikes of that era).

BTW- how's the weight on yours? All 3 of my Class A tourers are relatively heavy- especially compared to the 730. The Voyageur SP is a Columbus SL/SP mix- it doesn't seem anywhere near as spritely- same as the Trek 720 with the 531C frame and I would expect the 620 to be a touch heavier with the 531CS.
I'll likely keep the current crank on the 910 since I now have the 614 with more gears, but if ever I do decide to change it up I'll keep your recommendations in mind. It's always nice (as a relative newcomer to bike obsession) to come here and learn so much.
I don't even know the weight of the 910 but the only thing I carry besides a small under the saddle bag is a water bottle, or two, and I can tell you it's "much" lighter than the 1992 Miyata Triplecross I have that I barely ride.
When the 910 was for sale my father, who owns and bought new, a 1980 710, encouraged me to purchase the bike. Best $300 ever spent on a whim.
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Originally Posted by Pemetic2006
I'll likely keep the current crank on the 910 since I now have the 614 with more gears, but if ever I do decide to change it up I'll keep your reccomendations in mind. It's always nice (as a relative newcomer to bike obsession) to come here and learn so much.
I don't even know the weight of the 910 but the only thing I carry besides a small under the saddle bag is a water bottle, or two, and I can tell you it's "much" lighter than the 1992 Miyata Triplecross I have that I barely ride.
When the 910 was for sale my father, who owns and bought new, a 1981 or 82 710 ecouraged me to purchase the bike. Best $300 ever spent on a whim.
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My John Hollands is another workhorse around here.

Takes 700x28 tires, carries smaller panniers without complaining, has mid fork braze-ons for a Tubus rack that I can toss on the front and it handles like a dream.

Looks nice as well.

Here's the kicker. When I found the frameset for sale it had very, very few miles on it and it was a perfect fit. It was as if I had John build it just for me.

Right now it is my only built ELOS frameset and we know how good ELOS can be.

Really a fun bike to own and ride.

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Mid 70's Proteus dumpster find set up as fixed gear commuter until I figure out what to do with it.

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Mid 70's Proteus dumpster find set up as fixed gear commuter until I figure out what to do with it.
Someone was tossing a B&M headlight? Is it broken? And a generator hub?
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Someone was tossing a B&M headlight? Is it broken? And a generator hub?
No, those are my commuter add on's.

Someone tossed a Proteus frame/fork (531), Campy crank/pedals/BB/headset/seatpost. Seatpost was horribly stuck. I suspect that was why it was tossed as the seat tube ears were pried open. I was able to extract the post (not easily) and close the ears. Gotta love steel. I dug it out for the components and saving the frame was a real bonus. It rides great and fits me perfectly.
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Let's keep this thread up near the top for another day or two!

Here are a few pics of my newest Chris Kvale.

Check the lug thinning. Wow!

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Another Twin Cities builder from the last thirty years was Walter Croll.

Nice line of bikes, but didn't make it in the long run in the marketplace.

This frameset was actually built by Erik Noren of Peacock Groove fame.

I found it sitting in the basement of Grand Performance, unpainted and unbuilt after all of these years.

We had a fun forum project getting this on the road. Built from Reynolds 653, it offers a pleasant enough ride.

I ride it all the time here for errands, fun around the lakes and in crappy weather.

Let's call it my rain bike.

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Sorry to be late to the party. I simply wanted to add one photo of my daughter and her Medici Pro Strada from a ride we did together The wool jersey she is wearing was mine, from a OT bike club in San Luis Obispo. When my new wife washed it for the first time she wasn't careful and put it in the dryer - it shrank from fitting me at 6' 165 lb to fitting her at 5'3" 110 lb! I am just glad that she can wear it and really enjoys it.
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Sorry to be late to the party. I simply wanted to add one photo of my daughter and her Medici Pro Strada from a ride we did together The wool jersey she is wearing was mine, from a OT bike club in San Luis Obispo. When my new wife washed it for the first time she wasn't careful and put it in the dryer - it shrank from fitting me at 6' 165 lb to fitting her at 5'3" 110 lb! I am just glad that she can wear it and really enjoys it.
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1974 Carlsbad Masi
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1975 Eisentraut Limited (Oakland - probably made by Bruce Gordon)
1978 Trek TX700 (OK, not Californian)
1980's Lighthouse (Tim Neenan, Santa Ynez)
1987 Specialized Allez Team (Dave Tesch, San Marcos)
1988 Tesch Hwy 101 (Dave Tesch, San Marcos)

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Great pic of your daughter and what a strong stable of West Coast goodness.

Do you happen to have a link to some pics of these beauties?
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Mid 70's Proteus dumpster find set up as fixed gear commuter until I figure out what to do with it.

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Originally Posted by gomango
Let's keep this thread up near the top for another day or two!

Here are a few pics of my newest Chris Kvale.

Check the lug thinning. Wow!

[IMG]DSCN3764 by gomango1849, on Flickr[/IMG]

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Oh my....

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Originally Posted by leaping_gnome
Sorry to be late to the party. I simply wanted to add one photo of my daughter and her Medici Pro Strada from a ride we did together The wool jersey she is wearing was mine, from a OT bike club in San Luis Obispo. When my new wife washed it for the first time she wasn't careful and put it in the dryer - it shrank from fitting me at 6' 165 lb to fitting her at 5'3" 110 lb! I am just glad that she can wear it and really enjoys it.
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1974 Carlsbad Masi
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1975 Eisentraut Limited (Oakland - probably made by Bruce Gordon)
1978 Trek TX700 (OK, not Californian)
1980's Lighthouse (Tim Neenan, Santa Ynez)
1987 Specialized Allez Team (Dave Tesch, San Marcos)
1988 Tesch Hwy 101 (Dave Tesch, San Marcos)

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I was looking for a project bike and ended up getting this Rich Adams. I contacted Rich and have a new decal kit coming. Plan on painting it bright red, also thinking about painting the carbon forks red. Just haven't decided which way to go on components.


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