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Old 06-30-15, 04:27 PM
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List your SLX bikes in order of preference....

I know, an odd thread, but I'm not trying to be an elitist.
I've just had a few, and liked them all; figure geometry was perhaps the difference.
It wasn't until I thought about it that I realized how many of them I've come across.

Tier 1:
1-De Rosa SLX Professional. Man!
2-Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra. Just a sliver back, maybe an afterthought.
3-Simoncini SLX. Rode lighter than 1 and 2, but not a 100-mile frame.
4-Pinarello Montello. Right with the Simoncini, but fragile.

Tier 2:
5-Schwinn Paramount - Best of the rest.
6-Cinelli Super Corsa. Like elguicho, I found mine too aggressive.
7-D'Arienzo SLX (Basso design). Smoothest, but not top tier.
8-Mondonico - Very pretty, but didn't light it up.

What I'd like to try in SLX:
1-Colnago
2-Tommasini
3-Tomasso

Then again, maybe it's just more fun to say "SLX," like "salsa..."
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
I know, an odd thread, but I'm not trying to be an elitist.
I've just had a few, and liked them all; figure geometry was perhaps the difference.
It wasn't until I thought about it that I realized how many of them I've come across.

Tier 1:
1-De Rosa SLX Professional. Man!
2-Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra. Just a sliver back, maybe an afterthought.
3-Simoncini SLX. Rode lighter than 1 and 2, but not a 100-mile frame.
4-Pinarello Montello. Right with the Simoncini, but fragile.

Tier 2:
5-Schwinn Paramount - Best of the rest.
6-Cinelli Super Corsa. Like elguicho, I found mine too aggressive.
7-D'Arienzo SLX (Basso design). Smoothest, but not top tier.
8-Diamonte - Very pretty, but didn't light it up.

What I'd like to try in SLX:
1-Colnago
2-Tommasini
3-Tomasso

Then again, maybe it's just more fun to say "SLX," like "salsa..."
Well, The only SLX bike I've owned is a Tommasini Super Prestige from 1985 (I'm the original owner), which remains my favorite bike, both aesthetically and for overall ride quality. It's really a comfortable ride, something I attribute to it's very beautifully designed SLX fork, it's overall geometry, the very comfortable Ideale 90 saddle I have on it, and the fact that, fit-wise, this bike is really dialed into me.

When I bought it, I was between that, a Colnago Master, and a DeRosa (don't recall which model). I actually got the Tommasini because it was noticeably cheaper for the frame than the DeRosa, and the Colnago was not available in my desired color/size combo from stock, and I didn't want to wait for it.

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What is the timeframe/era on the use of SLX?
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1984 onwards.
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What is the timeframe/era on the use of SLX?
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Tried going the SLX/Italian bike direction a few years ago, but had to give up on those dreams, as building one usually means having o find and buy mega expensive Campagnolo parts and components, which i can better spend on a couple or three French race bikes instead.
It's just I cannot shift from my mind the instinct that SLX frameset = Italian top level bike = C Record/Delta stuff = a jillion million bucks!
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I've only kept two SLX framed bikes, a De Rosa and a Cinelli. I've had quite a few. They only one I would consider owning again (if my Cinelli broke) is a Tommasini. Robbie, the Tommasini is perhaps more agressive than the Cinelli, but very close. It does some things slightly better, some things slightly worse, but so close to my Cinelli that eventually I had to choose, and chose the Cinelli over the Tommasini.


FWIW, I have a hard time telling SL from SLX on the road. Both are good.
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Depends on how you ride. Campy is not expensive, unless you want NOS.
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Tried going the SLX/Italian bike direction a few years ago, but had to give up on those dreams, as building one usually means having o find and buy mega expensive Campagnolo parts and components, which i can better spend on a couple or three French race bikes instead.
It's just I cannot shift from my mind the instinct that SLX frameset = Italian top level bike = C Record/Delta stuff = a jillion million bucks!
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Originally Posted by Chombi View Post
Tried going the SLX/Italian bike direction a few years ago, but had to give up on those dreams, as building one usually means having o find and buy mega expensive Campagnolo parts and components, which i can better spend on a couple or three French race bikes instead.
It's just I cannot shift from my mind the instinct that SLX frameset = Italian top level bike = C Record/Delta stuff = a jillion million bucks!
When I bought my Tommasini in 1985, Campy was clearing out quite a bit of Nuovo Record and Super Record groupos for great prices - at the time, I paid noticeably less for Campy Super Record than Dura Ace 7400 would have cost me.
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Depends on how you ride. Campy is not expensive, unless you want NOS.
Thing with Campy C Record/Delta stuff is, even in used condition, they are still very expensive to buy......
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Thing with Campy C Record/Delta stuff is, even in used condition, they are still very expensive to buy......
I just sold a group for ~ $500. That's not expensive. I was happy to get that for it, and it was in VG condition.
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I just sold a group for ~ $500. That's not expensive. I was happy to get that for it, and it was in VG condition.
Depending on the condition of the Gruppo, but that sounds a lot cheaper than what prices I see just for VGC Delta brakesets out there, so your bargain pricing is more an exception than the norm, i suspect..... Plus I really want a close to perfect looking SLX bike, if I'm going to even consider building one up.....
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I have a near horror story on SLX, a huge scare last summer. (Edit: it was SL fork blades, not SLX. Thanks horatio for reminding me.)

2011 I had a custom ti fix gear made with a steel fork. The builder had some SLX so we went with it, along with a beautiful invest cast minimalist crown. We had the fork nickle plated with looked really good wit the ti and was of course, near as bulletproof/everything resistant. 2012 I rode Cycle Oregon on the bike. 32,000' of climbing and descending! Was training to do a slightly hillier one last year. My basic once a week route went up to a 1600' peak and back, about 2100' of climbing. I reached the peak, stopped, unscrewed the 17t cog and put on the 13 for the two big descents. Couldn't get the chain tension tight. Finally figured out the chain was riding up on the lockring because the cog was so small. (I usually used my 12t with its spcial lockring so I hadn't seen this before.)

I finally just rode it with the messed up chain and went really easy downhill so I was in no danger of stressing the chain and having it break 3 weeks later on CO. Get down to the flat and put the 17t back on. Tooled into town to do a couple of easy errands. And every time I hit the front brake, the bike shuddered violently! WTH? I nursed the bike home, not touching the front brake. Put the bike on the stand. Gave a gentle tug to the fork blades. The right bent 8"! With about 2 pounds of pull! It was cracked 3/4s of the way around. Took it to the builder and he pulled it off like it was a husk leaf on an ear of corn.

After starting that bend, I just walked into the house, shut the door and didn't look at it again until it was time to load it in the car to take to the builder. I had a Viscount fork break on me years ago, put me in a coma and take nearly a decade of my life. That I was planning to hit the brakes hard at 40+ mph that ride!

I picked out a new forkcrown with deep scallops. He got his hands on some good old 531 and a week later I had a spanking new fork in my hand a fork I trust completely. He did his homework to find outr why it broke. The plater never heat treated it. After nickle plating a high strength steel , you HAVE to heat treat it for a few hour at low temperature to drive off hydrogen molecules that do not fit in the metal structure. Common knowlege inthe industry. The plater had the over to heat treat it but charged a few bucks more to do it. Never mentioned it should be done. (Soon after my original fork was made, the builder changed plating companies. He asked them about it. They automatically heat treated.

The builder cut off the good blade just above the crown so he could give it to a metallurgy professor to examine. I got to see some absolutely beautiful, perfect brazing. Except for the matte finish of the brace, it looked machined to a radius, it was that good. And that fork had also started to crack about 25% of the way around. None of this was the fault of the SLX. But it was a high strength steel and so very negatively affected by sloppy plating. And it was thin walled, making the issue worse. And we chose to build the fork with a very light crown that did not have any scallops to distribute the load. A bunch of choices that nearly had a very bad ending.

The bike saved my life. That damned chain issue! It was looking after me. It's a keeper.

Edit: my photo to the left is that bike with its screaming red 531 replacement; going up the steepest climb of last year's Cycle Oregon a week after I received that new fork. The paint is hobby shop paint. It was a night before job by the builder and gorgeous!

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I have two SLX (for now!)

1. De Rosa Professional
2. Pinarello Montello

As for my SLs:

1. Merckx Professional
2. Basso Gap
3. Colnago Super
4. Ciocc Competition
5. Pinarello Treviso

It's actually a toss-up between the Gap and the Super for second place.
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Depending on the condition of the Gruppo, but that sounds a lot cheaper than what prices I see just for VGC Delta brakesets out there, so your bargain pricing is more an exception than the norm, i suspect..... Plus I really want a close to perfect looking SLX bike, if I'm going to even consider building one up.....
Still have the wheels, if interested, and some pre EXA C Record 8s cassette wheels, too. Cheap ( I guess).

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I remember when our stables were quite different....
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I have two SLX (for now!)

1. De Rosa Professional
2. Pinarello Montello

As for my SLs:

1. Merckx Professional
2. Basso Gap
3. Colnago Super
4. Ciocc Competition
5. Pinarello Treviso

It's actually a toss-up between the Gap and the Super for second place.
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I remember when our stables were quite different....
Yep. Not too long ago, either. You have built some really hot bikes.

Glad I've been able to enjoy a couple of your framesets. I'm really loving that De Rosa.

Have you put up a thread on the new Ironman?
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Late 80's Guerciotti

I like it OK, was my trainer bike this winter. Still ride it outside some, but it'll be up for sale when I get around to taking some pics.

I had an SL framed Bertoni that I liked better. I wish it had been one size larger.
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Ciocc Designer 84. Good for 10 miles or 100+
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Tier 1:
1-De Rosa SLX Professional. Man!
2-Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra. Just a sliver back, maybe an afterthought.
Those are the two I have, and the only two SLX bikes I've ever ridden. I'd put the Eddy on top, by a little, but it's probably just be a geometry thing; between the ones I have, it's a longer, more relaxed bike. Doesn't demand as much as the DeRosa but seems to give back just as much. Both C-record equipped, and came to me that way at a price I didn't want to say no to (even though I'm still making payments)

Far and above my fanciest bikes.
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Good for 10 miles or 100+
The essence of a steel bike, to me.
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I would like to group the SL and SLX together.

1. Chris Kvale - I have grown to truly appreciate the understated visual appeal, but all of my SL framed Kvales are favorites as they fit me best. Superb road bikes!
2. Tommasini- Both my current Sintesi and the Super Prestige I sold to Toavii are the best handling "SLX" framed Italian bikes I owned. Absolute magic in the tubes! Even though my Sintesi has battle scars I can't bring myself to sell it. Although it is truly weathered it still outperforms most of the other Italian bikes I have ridden over the years.
3. De Rosa SLX - When I was still riding hard, this bike was my favorite. Something about the way the bike climbed and worked with me. I am waiting to see what Bixxis brings to the market to fill this slot. I would always like to have at least one Italian road bike here to enjoy. ITALIAN CYCLING JOURNAL: Bixxis, Doriano De Rosa Follows His Own Road
4. Eddy Merckx - I have owned Corsas and Corsa Extras over the years in SL and SLX. All of them were top notch and I wouldn't hesitate to grab another if they would come around. The one Merckx I really want is a very early Professional in silver please.
5. Colnago Supers - These all fit me like an old pair of loafers and it's what I raced many years ago. I know how they handle with my eyes blindfolded as I have put in thousands upon thousands of miles on these. They weren't fancy, but they were predictable and fun.

So that's a quick top five. I have owned loads of others as well, but the top five should suffice for this conversation.
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