Faggin... a saga
07-10-15, 10:20 AM
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Faggin... a saga
Last year, I bought a Faggin frame and fork, stripped down to the chrome. Not very well done, bits of paint left over, and as I found out later, paint stripper in the tubes. I didn't know what to do with it, but I contacted Faggin in Italy and asked them about it. Turns out they do good prices for re-paints of their old frames sent in for renovation.
While I was pondering, I left the frame in what I thought was a safe and dry part of my falling down garage. I went to get it a few weeks later, and to my horror, the safe place wasn't, and the rain leaking through had damaged the chrome across the whole frame and fork. No photos, I think I was too embarrased. That decided it's fate, and off it went to Faggin Centrale. When Davide (the only chap with passable English, and only just) got it, he told me that it was in bad shape and the best would be a rechrome and respray. I agreed. His email might give you an idea of his level of English. I wish my Italian was as good, but we got it done...
"Hello Miles,
we were something in truble we are very sorry!
About you frame! The problem it is on the chrome parts have a lot of rust and you need to re-chrome!
you can spend:
- unchrome – polish – chrome: € 220,00 Italian VAT incl. <- it is very long work
- Paint: € 130,00 Italian VAT incl.
If you decide that the price it is too big I can suggest you to paint all frame and you spend only € 130,00 Italian VAT incl.
I will make the and give you the certificate of authenticity where we write the you make original restoring!
The Truble turned out to be their attendance at the frame builders show in Bristol, my home town and I wasn't there!
Anyway, I decided to go the whole hog.
The before photos (there are more on other threads if you're interested):
While I was pondering, I left the frame in what I thought was a safe and dry part of my falling down garage. I went to get it a few weeks later, and to my horror, the safe place wasn't, and the rain leaking through had damaged the chrome across the whole frame and fork. No photos, I think I was too embarrased. That decided it's fate, and off it went to Faggin Centrale. When Davide (the only chap with passable English, and only just) got it, he told me that it was in bad shape and the best would be a rechrome and respray. I agreed. His email might give you an idea of his level of English. I wish my Italian was as good, but we got it done...
"Hello Miles,
we were something in truble we are very sorry!
About you frame! The problem it is on the chrome parts have a lot of rust and you need to re-chrome!
you can spend:
- unchrome – polish – chrome: € 220,00 Italian VAT incl. <- it is very long work
- Paint: € 130,00 Italian VAT incl.
If you decide that the price it is too big I can suggest you to paint all frame and you spend only € 130,00 Italian VAT incl.
I will make the and give you the certificate of authenticity where we write the you make original restoring!
The Truble turned out to be their attendance at the frame builders show in Bristol, my home town and I wasn't there!
Anyway, I decided to go the whole hog.
The before photos (there are more on other threads if you're interested):
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07-10-15, 11:32 AM
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The results are in. Although it was done at an Italian pace (sent at the end of February, returned this week) I'm pleased.
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07-10-15, 11:36 AM
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Beautiful.
Love the color.
Love the color.
07-10-15, 11:39 AM
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07-10-15, 12:00 PM
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The re-chrome has filled in a little of the detail, and I have to say that I could have put the decals on with fewer bubbles, but the paint and the chrome, and the yellow detailing are bloody lovely!
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07-10-15, 12:02 PM
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nicely done.
07-10-15, 12:10 PM
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Nice! Makes we want to buy and old scruffy Faggin and ship it off to Italy.
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Lovely frame! I love the idea of sending a bike back to the home country for a restoration. Very nice restoration indeed.
07-11-15, 02:56 AM
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What Wulf said... 
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07-13-15, 12:59 AM
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Spent the last couple of days (on and off) looking for a campag group to put on it, but they are like chickens teeth. Found a couple but waaaay out of my price range. Almost seems a shame to put DuraAce on, but that's what I have in the drawer.
Why are complete vintage Campag groups so rare??
Why are complete vintage Campag groups so rare??
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06-20-16, 11:05 PM
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After several months of too much work, I'm back on the build. As previously mentioned, the stickers (not decals) are peeling off. I could be tempted to get a set of aftermarket decals they were put on so carelessly (the paint and chrome however is beautiful still). The bike was returned with new screws for the drop outs and a seat bolt in a bag attached to the frame. The screws went in fine, but the seat bolt? They sent the wrong one. There is no notch to accommodate the locating point, and the bolt does not fit in the hole anyway. I did get the rear mech in though, more thread cleaning was required but it draws ever closer. I now have the Campag NR brakes, and a set of levers to add to it. The wheelset is temporary until I can find the time to sort out the period correct ones. Either Dura Ace that I need to build or I have some Record tubulars from another bike (that now lives in the USA)
To be continued...
To be continued...
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06-21-16, 07:24 AM
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Please continue...
you know every little irk the frame gives you will melt away after the first few miles after the build. A very beautiful frame there!
you know every little irk the frame gives you will melt away after the first few miles after the build. A very beautiful frame there!
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06-21-16, 11:43 AM
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Most Campag (and copies like GPM, etc.) do NOT use a tab-and-notch in the seat binder bolt, rather a ring of "serrations" or "coining"...not sure what to call them...I'll look for a pic.
VeloBase to the rescue, thanks be to them!
VeloBase to the rescue, thanks be to them!
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06-21-16, 07:08 PM
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That is faggin' gorgeous.
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"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
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06-21-16, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
Most Campag (and copies like GPM, etc.) do NOT use a tab-and-notch in the seat binder bolt, rather a ring of "serrations" or "coining"...not sure what to call them...I'll look for a pic.
VeloBase to the rescue, thanks be to them!
VeloBase to the rescue, thanks be to them!
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