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Old 07-19-15, 07:18 PM
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How NOT to sell a crankset!!!!

Here's the quote from the eBay ad: "You get everything shown including the lower tube. I cut the frame apart because it is too much too ship and was not the top of the line but the components were good. The Bottom Bracket bearings feel smooth. "




Duh, like this is going to make it easier to ship??


Here's the listing.

STRONGLIGHT PEUGEOT Complete CRANKSET 170MM 9/16 52 & 40, Bottom Bracket, Bike

Enjoy!
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Old 07-19-15, 07:22 PM
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Hmmmmm
Too bad they're only 170's.............. ;-)
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That's just about the most rediculous thing I've ever seen.
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The seller has 1183 positive feedbacks, so the seller must be doing something right. I think the issue is not having the proper crank removal tool. Should be disclosed and the threading is French.
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Originally Posted by gioscinelli View Post
The seller has 1183 positive feedbacks, so the seller must be doing something right. I think the issue is not having the proper crank removal tool. Should be disclosed and the threading is French.
Looks like a post-1982 crank, so a standard 22mm puller ought to have worked. French thread shouldn't be an issue in removing the cups. Seller was a little hasty with the hacksaw, IMO.
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Old 07-19-15, 08:02 PM
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You just dont see that everyday.
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And the seller lost what ever value he would have gotten out of the frame. 5 minutes at a co-op, or a couple of dollars at the LBS and that crank could have been removed for him.
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More people have sawzalls than crank pullers.
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Kinda the typical junk yard approach. At least you'll be certain to all the parts. I'd actually feel more confident buying that way.
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Old 07-19-15, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wrk101 View Post
... Duh, like this is going to make it easier to ship?? ...
I think he was trying to say that the frame was not worth shipping.

Perhaps what is not being disclosed is that the frame was already destroyed by crash or accident?
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Old 07-19-15, 09:04 PM
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Hate to see what happens when he gets a flat tire. He'd probably bring in the rear wheel with the stays and dropouts still attached to the wheel. "The quick releases weren't quick enough and I only need to press a button on my Sawzall to remove the wheel." Lol.
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Originally Posted by auldgeunquers View Post
I think he was trying to say that the frame was not worth shipping.
I'm sure that's what he was saying, but wow.
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if he invested in a sawzall what's a few bucks for some proper bb wrenches
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He also probably included free freewheels with all hubset also....still threaded on.
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Comes with a complete bottom bracket!
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He also probably included free freewheels with all hubset also....still threaded on.
and free hubs with all freewheels?
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Originally Posted by mapleleafs-13 View Post
if he invested in a sawzall what's a few bucks for some proper bb wrenches
Sawzall is easier to find at a pawnshop.
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Lots of free grease on the rings to.
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Last time I saw this approach it was a guy walking into the back door of the bike shop and offering a Campagnolo crank set with bottom bracket complete with about 6 inches of each tube and stay left attached.
He wanted $15. Red Hot it was.
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He also probably included free freewheels with all hubset also....still threaded on.
With cut spokes still attached.
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I got a swell deal on a 49D in the same condition. But that needed the Stronglight puller, so at least it makes sense.
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The bike was probably just chained to the bike rack...
And rather than trying to cut the hardened steel NY Lock... it was easier to chop up the frame to remove it.

Is he selling a headset too?

I think I have a French BB Shell that needs replaced on one of my bikes... perhaps I'll have to consider that one.

But, as others have said... I'm not too excited about 170's... perhaps if I make a kid's bike???
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those cuts look too clean for a sawzall. very perpendicular and with no stutter marks: he didn't just hack that off a bike on a rack, he used a proper tool and maybe even a jig. seems way more effort than just pulling the cranks.
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Originally Posted by gioscinelli View Post
The seller has 1183 positive feedbacks, so the seller must be doing something right. I think the issue is not having the proper crank removal tool. Should be disclosed and the threading is French.
Most of the seller's 1183 listings have nothing to do with bikes!

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Everyone here assumes he cut apart a decent frame. It's equally likely that the frame and fork had a run-in with a car bumper, so he opted to part it out via hacksaw.
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