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Old 07-29-15, 10:48 AM
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Another mysterious frame identification

Hi there! I've got another mystery at my hands. This time this 26.6mm seatpost (although i'm not with a paquimeter on my hands, a 26.8mm one almost fits is), italian thread bb. By scratching the dropouts I couldn't find any visible stamps and I have no idea of any components and fork that it came originally. I can read the serial number as 903273 and have never seen those lugs before, does anyone have any idea?

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Old 07-29-15, 11:20 AM
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I feel like I have seen those lugs on an Atala before.
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The lugs look like slightly modified Cresperas. Crespera usually means Carlton.
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Old 07-29-15, 11:27 AM
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Drop-outs look like Simplex, which points to French or British production.
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i was just told that it might be a peugeot course. i think it makes sense.
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Originally Posted by thaian View Post
i was just told that it might be a peugeot course. i think it makes sense.
Yes, it does. Lugs and drop-outs seem to match the ca 1980 model.
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Originally Posted by thaian View Post
i was just told that it might be a peugeot course. i think it makes sense.

Didn't you say it had Italian threading?
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
Didn't you say it had Italian threading?
i just realized that i might have been wrong by assuming the italian threading since i just noticed the right-hand thread on both sides and could not measure it precisely. my bad, it might be french threading indeed.
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Old 07-29-15, 12:14 PM
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Not sure of the identity. Verify the threading.

Show a photo of the front of the head tube. Those look like Nervex lugs, but not the "Pro" version. However, I think a variety of bikes used those lugs. Motobecane?

But, I thought I'd say that I like the over & under cable routing
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If you think it might be Italian threading on the BB just try inserting a British or French threaded cup. They are smaller and will slide into the BB shell without the threads engaging at all.

If you try the reverse, an Italian cup will be too large to fit either a British or French threaded BB shell.
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in seventh photo it appears rh stays are out too far from centreline compared to those of lh. may possibly be a photographic effect. or perhaps someone opened the rear triangle to accept a wider hub. the rh cs always moves more easily in such cases due to the double dimpling... an alignment check may in be order.

lugset not shown in nervex catalogue i have. wonder if it may be a prugnat pattern. definitely not an english one. does anyone have a prugnat catalogue they could check?
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Peugeot, perhaps...





Not sure what is up with the fork, though. It does not look bent - cause it's straight.
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Is the fork original? I think it looks like something from the mid 90's - if not later.
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Old 07-30-15, 06:01 AM
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oh, i don't think i have been clear enough, the fork is NOT original at all. I'm 90% sure that it is a peugeot indeed, i just need to check the bb shell diameter. thanks for all the answers!
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