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What the heck did I just impulse buy... a Peugeot... other?

Old 07-31-15, 02:25 PM
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What did I just impulse buy... a Peugeot? What would you repaint it as?

EDIT: So I doubt I'll ever know what it is, the only last bit of information is that it has a size 26.6 seat tube and two holes in the BB where perhaps a serial # plaque was. The BB doesn't have a seam and is smooth.

sooo....

MY NEW QUESTION: What would you repaint this as? It's a Frankenbike, clearly. I intend to use it on an L'Eroica ride since all the parts are of an appropriate age, style, etc.

Not knowing what it was, for certain, what are your feelings on repainting it like something else, say a black Peugeot PX-10? For a laugh and to make sure it's never sold off as one, I'd like to put a decal under the clear coat that says "Not a Peugeot, or is it?"... which would also be funny to me. Is painting a frame like something else when you have no clue what it genuinely is sacrilege? Will the cycling gods throw my chain or make every wind a headwind? Or is it just bad form?

I'd like to paint it like this:

I would leave my Tange fork completely chrome and not half black.

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I picked this up for 100 because it caught my eye and I had a "good feeling" ... translation ... I was weak and wanted a project =\ Up until now I've only had a variety of Japanese bikes so I'm at a loss with this thing.

The frame has been repainted I think (judging by quality and a finger print) and the fork has been replaced. I suspect a front end collision, but nothing that would keep me from enjoying it. It's light for the suspected age, which I put at mid-late 70's. I couldn't find a serial number, engraving, etc. anywhere. It has a Simplex rear dropout that had the hanger cut off. It has a Simplex seat post bolt, Simplex bottom bracket guide, Maillard 700 hubs and Mavic tubulars. That's about all I imagine is original perhaps. The bottom bracket is French threaded, but Sugino. I'd be pleased for anyone to take a stab at what this is. I'm excited to see how the Campy/Simplex/Simano golden arrow combination works =) It looks to be a fun Frankenbike.









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Old 07-31-15, 02:26 PM
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Old 07-31-15, 02:38 PM
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I can't tell what it is from the pictures provided, but I like it. Very much. Mainly because it's such a nice combination of Japanese, French and Italian of parts. I can see why 'gruppos' were a good idea from a salesman's point of view, but as a consumer I'm not a fan of the concept.
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I agree^^
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Is there a hanger under that bog ol claw?
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Can't tell either and I agree looks like a fun bike for a decent price.
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Old 07-31-15, 04:30 PM
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I think there WAS a hanger on the dropout, but it has been cut off.

There are also a few holes drilled in it as if the previous owner had thought about doing a drillium job and then thought better of continuing. Those photos are on another camera, but I'll share them when I get home because they're kind of funny, you can see where he stopped and was thinking, "maybe this isn't such a good idea." This bike is full of "I wonder what they were thinking when they did that..."

The only other strange thing is the little hole that looks to be drilled at the top lip on the drive side of the seat post tube where the seat post is inserted. I've never seen anything like that before.
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Ill give you double! i need a project too! just finished fixing up an old carbolite 104 pug for someone and now i have the Pug bug. I almost impulse bought 2 on ebay last night...

I have one French bike where everything is French but nothing matches. Sachs new success, Simplex, Stronglight and now a shimano rear cassette. funny thing is it works as well if not better than my matching ultegra...who knows
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Really neat project and definitely worth what you paid for it. Simplex DID make rear drop-outs that looked like that, both with and WITHOUT a derailleur hanger (I have a Jeunet 630 that has such dropouts without the hanger). Will be interested in what you do with it.
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Pretty much a "Frankenbike" especially with the Tange fork that could be a replacement after a frontal crash or curbing.... So do a very thorough inspection of the top and down tubes near the headstock for any slight kinks or bends..
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@Chombi ... yeah, just from a first glance the angle seems closer to 'track' geometry than road geometry of the era.

I'll post some pictures as I progress. I have a feeling she's going to be okay structurally and turn out to be an enjoyable daily ride when all is said and done.
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The only other strange thing is the little hole that looks to be drilled at the top lip on the drive side of the seat post tube where the seat post is inserted. I've never seen anything like that before.
It would be a good way to make a too small seatpost function without slipping. Put a little set screw in there. Practically none of my bikes have the correct size seatpost.
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Old 08-31-15, 12:08 PM
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@seedsbelize ... that makes total sense, I bet that's what it was at some point, though the seat post it came with is the correct size.

EDIT: So I doubt I'll ever know what it is, the only last bit of information is that it has a size 26.6 seat tube and two holes in the BB where perhaps a serial # plaque was. The BB doesn't have a seam and is smooth.


sooo....


MY NEW QUESTION: What would you repaint this as? It's a Frankenbike, clearly. I intend to use it on an L'Eroica ride since all the parts are of an appropriate age, style, etc.


Not knowing what it was, for certain, what are your feelings on repainting it like something else, say a black Peugeot PX-10? For a laugh and to make sure it's never sold off as one, I'd like to put a decal under the clear coat that says "Not a Peugeot, or is it?"... which would also be funny to me. Is painting a frame like something else when you have no clue what it genuinely is sacrilege? Will the cycling gods throw my chain or make every wind a headwind? Or is it just bad form?


I'd like to paint it like this:

I would leave my Tange fork completely chrome and not half black.
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It's your bike, paint it however you like. You could make a little decal that says "-esque" and put it on the downtube under the Peugeot decal. I have a french bike that came with a mix of French and Italian parts on it, I love it and it's such a lively rider.
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Most Peugeots of that era (70s) had the serial number on an aluminum tab riveted onto the underside of the BB. What's with that chain routing, anyway? If it's a PX-10, then it would likely be the "LE" model that didn't have the Nervex Pro lugs (though they stopped using those altogether at some point). If it doesn't have a (Simplex-style, not Campagnolo) hanger on the drive side rear dropout, then it was probably cut off (lack of chrome, rust would attest), though Simplex did make similar dropouts without the hanger, as mentioned above, used on earlier bikes. My guess is that it's a mid-to-late-70s frame, based on the dropouts; but I'm not an expert.
Here's a Flickr album with photos of a 1974 PX-10LE, for comparison; might be a bit earlier than what you have.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131757...57624629765790
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Heh, that chain routing is just how the PO sold it to me... it made no sense. Yup, I've got some ground down rivets under the BB, it had a Simplex hanger that the PO cut off, no Nervex lugs so it's plausibly an LE.

I think I'll pick up some Velocals decals and then send it all to Groody Bros. for a powder coat (another member had a really great job done by them). I'll probably be done polishing all the parts by the time the frame is ready. The fork I'll leave totally chrome as there's noway it's original. A bit overkill, but it's probably easier to go this route with what I have than wait for an original in my size, in the color I want, at a price I'd be willing to pay =)
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Just make it yours and enjoy it.Id like to see the finished project.
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Haha, it's not even remotely the same bike =) It's just a saddle swap, bottle cages, and some bar tape away from being done and ready for Eroica California. Maybe I'll be able to pick up a frame or something at the event that fits me better and I'll swap all the parts over later, but for now this will do!
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