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Old 08-05-15, 05:24 PM
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Attracting new and younger riders to the joy of C&V machines... share your tricks

Like all things that you hope will expand and grow, I think C&V cycling needs to encourage the next generation. Most of the younger bicycle riders that I know, from work or friendships, are pretty much in the mountain bike crowd. Some ride mtb as mtb's, and some use them as "recreational" rides, for pleasure rides with family and friends. None of them ride C&V stuff (not even C&V mtb's). They ask me questions about my bicycles, probably just to be nice, but never express an interest in finding/fixing and riding one. Any ideas or stories to share?
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I have no doubt that kids will be interested in what their parents, relatives, and even grandparents ride.

I got my 8 (now 9) yr old nephew a Fuji Ace 24 road bike. Ok, not "vintage", but a nice little road bike. He's not all together convinced about the drop bars, but he likes the bike, and is getting FASTER. His dad has an old Raleigh 10 speed that has had a few years... and now also his grandfather's Torpado.

I'll probably try to get him a small 700c bike in a few years. I'm not sure if it will be vintage or not. But there are vintage bikes all around him, so perhaps some will rub off on him.

I will say that when I went to the vintage ride up in Portland a month ago, the bike with the Cambio Corsa was being ridden by a guy in his mid 20's, I think.

Relatively speaking, the classic bikes are often still a good deal when one finds them.
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Old 08-05-15, 05:57 PM
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I guess I've never tried to share the joy in a gospel sense. I have had conversations with people that I've ridden with about my "vintage bike".
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The current trends are towards cheaper made vintage products. Most high school & college kids ride cheap 70' 80's steel bikes. The younger cooler guys I know wouldn't be caught dead on a Harley or Drink a micro brew. They'd rather be sporting a PBR & a beat up Yamaha. Hell, even the in Vogue guitars are the old off brand cheap beaters of the 50's-70's. Quality seems to be for the collectors or those of us who enjoy the best of what the times offered.
The rest of modern crowd seem to be those who want that finest microbrew, carbon fiber bike & a super sexy Ducati. The rest of us are the minority...
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Old 08-05-15, 06:00 PM
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I set my 30 year old nephew up with my 1985 Specialized Sequoia after he had two of his Surly Cross Checks were stolen in succession. He loves the Sequoia - says that it is lighter, quicker, and in general just does everything the Cross Checks did - but just a little better! Nice.
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Old 08-05-15, 06:18 PM
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I invite friends out for a bike and beach day. When they say they don't have a bike, no problem, I have 12... because I have a problem, haha. With patience and lots of enthusiasm I fit one of my bikes to them and we set off... and they're usually sold. Most have never been on a proper road bike, especially ones with size 700c/23 tires. The speed is addictive I think. The loaners I use the most are a light Peugeot Triathlon, Bridgestone 400, and Nishiki Modulous. They're all given risers, as everyone seems wary of drop bars. A simple, revertible conversion that goes a long way in making new riders comfortable. They still have to shift with the down tube shifters, but they're also all indexed which again helps.

After that they say they want one, I say let's look on Craigslist... we find something nice for $150, usually something 80's, buy it, they fix it up with me (I play a game of seeing how long I can go without doing anything for them)... and at the end they have a dialed in machine that they know and have sweat over. Instant attachment. Most of them now mention bikes they've seen on the street, or send me txt's with photos asking for information on something they really liked locked up outside a coffee shop or such. A few seem really bit by the bug and want something classic, but the rest end up with a firm appreciation of quality, vintage steel and I've got a new riding buddy =)

Just daring a visiting friend to try and ride one of your shiny, vintage bikes is worth it. Once they see how light and fun they are you've basically set them down the rabbit hole =)
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@RobbieTunes is trying something new to me. At a popular challenge ride, the Dairyland Dare (over 1000 riders), Robbie is organizing a "vintage class". There are a few special considerations for those who register with a vintage bike.

I think it is the best chance for conversions is from the unwashed modern heathens. Trying to convert non-cyclists would just be plain stupid.

Having an all vintage event is just preaching to the choir.

I like this idea.
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Old 08-05-15, 06:59 PM
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The Qur'an states "Let there be no compulsion in the religion: Surely the Right Path is clearly distinct from the crooked path."
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I first caught the bug while out riding. Around here there's a few riders that ride old steel bikes. These are old grey headed men. And they will flat stomp you on those old bikes. Carbon, alyouminium, whatever you're riding, grandpa comes by like a freight train on his old steel bike. I guess you could say they led me to the religion by example.

Plus @RobbieTunes told me how women flock to a man on a vintage racing bike. As ugly as I am I need all the help I can get in that department (I kid, I'm happily married).
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@RobbieTunes is trying something new to me. At a popular challenge ride, the Dairyland Dare (over 1000 riders), Robbie is organizing a "vintage class". There are a few special considerations for those who register with a vintage bike.

I think it is the best chance for conversions is from the unwashed modern heathens. Trying to convert non-cyclists would just be plain stupid.

Having an all vintage event is just preaching to the choir.

I like this idea.
I also like that idea! What are these special considerations for vintage cyclists and could they also be incorporated into other popular rides... like charity rides?

I occasionally see a cyclist on a vintage bicycle on the trails or paths. I've spoken with a handful. Most seem to have owned the bikes many years, inherited them, or just bought cheap with little on no consideration of any vintage or classic status. I am not sure I know anyone (other than myself) who really appreciates old steel, and geometry.
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I also like that idea! What are these special considerations for vintage cyclists and could they also be incorporated into other popular rides... like charity rides?
This year is minimal because of the extremely short timing. I believe there is a discount, a special start time, a special place to park the bikes and that's about it.

Hopefully all goes well because it would be nice to help out and kick it up a notch. More of a formal bike exhibit, prizes of some sort, a special swag bag and an exclusive social gathering the night before. We will have enough time to put something together.
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Old 08-05-15, 08:44 PM
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This year is minimal because of the extremely short timing. ............ it would be nice to help out and kick it up a notch. More of a formal bike exhibit, prizes of some sort, a special swag bag and an exclusive social gathering the night before. We will have enough time to put something together.
I think your on to something there.
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@RobbieTunes is trying something new to me. At a popular challenge ride, the Dairyland Dare (over 1000 riders), Robbie is organizing a "vintage class". There are a few special considerations for those who register with a vintage bike.

I think it is the best chance for conversions is from the unwashed modern heathens. Trying to convert non-cyclists would just be plain stupid.

Having an all vintage event is just preaching to the choir.

I like this idea.
He's inspired me to consider trying to do something similar at the Rouge Roubaix (St Francisville, LA, N of Baton Rouge) .
If it's like last year (the first for the Gran Fondo to be added), the GF will be on Saturday, and the racers come out Sunday. Weekend of March 12-13.
If anyone out there is interested let me know.

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In Portland, OR, it would seem the yuts are already into vintage and retro. Many of the shops here have used and "vintage" bins to shop from. Kinda goes with the "green" and "recycle" image.
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^+1, I wish the young hipsters would leave the old stuff to us grouches (unless they're buying our castoffs, of course).
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I'm building vintage faux team / tribute bikes for the grandkids. Hardcore to these youngsters. Just like when my pop had us fix a POS push gas mower and make us mow two acres of lawn. Hated the mowing but liked the tinkering and learning about motors

Anyways, the kids bikes are far better than any big box store type. The Moto faux BiC is cute. Next is a Bilato built LeMond. Getting the Team Z theme. Next is possibly a Hinault commemorative LOOK. They have to be flashy enough for these girls.
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Invite someone to ride a nice C&V bike that's their size and is properly adjusted to fit them. If the bike has clips and straps and they've never ridden with them, take off the toe straps for starters.

Be prepared for lots of "WOW, this is great".

It sometimes helps to start someone out on a bike with larger sized tires to help them over their apprehension about "skinny" tires.

The biggest thing is DON"T BE A HAMMERHEAD!

Slow down to their pace and do a "charity ride".

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I do alright selling refurbished road and mountain bikes. Not a huge volume, and of course demand is seasonal. Few others are doing the same, except for a few LBS. Young people are thrilled to ride a bike older than they are.

There appears to be no shortage of vintage around Detroit, judging by the vast number of electro forged Schwinns that appear on group rides like Slow Roll, mostly single speeds and cruisers. Also, no shortage of vintage around Ann Arbor or Grosse Pointe, judging from the bike racks around these towns.

Most bikes are not in stellar condition. Even in a market where everyone has access to their father's or uncles comprehensive hand tool collection, after all this is Motor City, the lack of mechanical aptitude among the "social media" age group is pitiful. LBS fees are prohibitive in many cases.
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My daughter would soon outgrow her 24"-wheeled mountain bike, so when I stumbled across a small 1981 Fuji SJ-10 in desperate need of some TLC, I rebuilt it for her. I didn't ask her if she wanted it -- I just asked what color she wanted it. She loves her purple bike, and that it's different from what the other kids have.

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uncle uncle, You can't lead a horse...

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I got my 8 (now 9) yr old nephew a Fuji Ace 24 road bike. Ok, not "vintage", but a nice little road bike. He's not all together convinced about the drop bars, but he likes the bike, and is getting FASTER.
My 7 year-old son felt very unsafe on his 24" drop bar bike. I replaced the drop bars with a flat bar and Claris flat bar controls and he really took off. He also has a drop bar identical bike and he now has the confidence and experience to ride that as well.
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I just ride faster than they do. Gets their attention every time.
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You can lead a horse, to water.
But making them drink is another matter.
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But making them drink is another matter.
A version I remember is "You can't lead a horse to water to make him drink."

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