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Old 11-23-16, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CV-6
Two contributions here. I originally built this up with Superbe Pro and later tore it down and built it with Superbe. I like the look of Superbe better on this frame.
Agreed, that's really slick. Is that a drilled Superbe crankset on the second bike? If so, did you drill it yourself?
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I had a set of Sun Tour Superbe side pull brakes that I put on a Raleigh International. Those were some of the best looking, great stopping brakes I had used. They just barely were long enough reach for the International, but they just barely made the positioning of the pads far enough down, I would have loved to have found a long reach model of the same brakes.

I want to say they were called Superbe Pro, but I cannot confirm it, none shown on VeloBase I could find. Might be my mind playing its usual tricks on me too.

Those are some seriously nice bikes above, drool worthy rated.

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Originally Posted by johnnyace
Agreed, that's really slick. Is that a drilled Superbe crankset on the second bike? If so, did you drill it yourself?
I did not. These come up on eBay from time to time, mostly silver, but once in a great while a black set comes along. I think they are Sugino.
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I didn't take this photo(photo by djkashuba), but it's my bike, equipped with the Suntour Superbe brakes I bought new around 1983.
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Nagasawa-san loaned me one of his road frames to display at the CR Weekend and the Philly Bike Expo while he builds me a frame. I built it up with a mixture of parts I had on hand, later index-era brakes and front derailleur with late/pre-index rder, crank, shifters and hubs. Photos by Ken Toda:



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Originally Posted by rimrock
Did Suntour make Superbe front derailleurs with built-in cable stops?

If not, did Suntour have different quality lines of clamp-on cable stops? Some of the ones I see look pretty crude.
The two Suntour FDs (Cyclone and Mountech) that I have with cable stops just have a screw on cable stop.

Here's a pic of the two Mountechs side by side- you can see one has the screw on housing stop, the other doesn't.










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Originally Posted by johnnyace


Agreed, that's really slick. Is that a drilled Superbe crankset on the second bike? If so, did you drill it yourself?
Sakae Ringyo "Royal Superlight" chainrings came drilled like that:



VeloBase.com - Component: Sakae/Ringyo (SR) RY-5SL, Royal-5 Super Light
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One more to show. Springfield Special possibly built by legendary Dutch frame builder Witte Ko. A mix of Superbe and SSP. Right now it is a mix of Superbe and Cyclone.

Springfield 02 by L Travers, on Flickr

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White SSP

Here is a white Suntour Superbe Pro that hangs on a white 3RENSHO



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That's a little too much of a ghost bike for my tastes!
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Originally Posted by OldsCOOL
I have a set of Superbe pedals. That's it.
One guys posts that he has everything but the pedals, you post that you have only the pedals; I can do both you guys one worse (that's like doing one better, but different). Bought this in the mid-'80s and had it out of the tube twice, never used it. My only Superbe-ish piece.
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Originally Posted by thumpism
One guys posts that he has everything but the pedals, you post that you have only the pedals; I can do both you guys one worse (that's like doing one better, but different). Bought this in the mid-'80s and had it out of the tube twice, never used it. My only Superbe-ish piece.
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I just looked and remembered that my pix on Imageshack got wiped out.

So here's my 1986 Trek 400 Elance with a Superbe Pro RD and an XC Pro FD.




As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I get a kick out of outfitting a 2nd from entry level bike with top of the line equipment. The XC Pro stuff was equivalent to XTR, before there was XTR.

Even though the 400 Elance was 2nd from entry level for Trek, it was a 531 main frame with CrMo fork and stays. It's a really nice bike.
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Originally Posted by thumpism
One guys posts that he has everything but the pedals, you post that you have only the pedals; I can do both you guys one worse (that's like doing one better, but different). Bought this in the mid-'80s and had it out of the tube twice, never used it. My only Superbe-ish piece.
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Is this tool used to press bearings in and out??

I've got some Superbe road pedals and some of the Grease Guard XC Pro pedals (almost the same body). Never had bearing problems. Wonderfully engineered items!


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Originally Posted by steelbikeguy
Is this tool used to press bearings in and out??
Yes, see instructions. Sorry for the bad pix.
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My contribution:
Suntour Superbe brakes, CB-4700 (long reach)
Suntour Superbe brake levers, CB-3200

I acquired this set from an eBay auction. They were listed as used but when I received them they were clearly unused, NOS. Replaced the brake pads with Scott Mathausen salmon. The hoods were also shot so I found suitable replacements.

These are by far the best single pivot brakes I have ever used, and the satin finish is "Superbe"






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Originally Posted by thumpism
Yes, see instructions. Sorry for the bad pix.
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thanks for sharing! Definitely a handy item for the next SunTour trivia contest.


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I've been meaning to post some pics of my Superbe-equipped Trek 614 here for a while, but I hadn't gotten around to taking decent pictures. I had it out for a ride yesterday and corrected that.




I think these are CB-3200 levers and CB-4700 calipers. The calipers are definitely the long reach version.



Tremble in awe of my long cage Superbe II rear derailleur (RD-5800), which lets me use a SunTour New Winner freewheel with a 30T cog. The front derailleur is an FD-3000 (endless band). The crank is a CW-5000 Superbe Pro. Even the chain is Superbe, though I kind of feel like I should take that off to preserve it.



A better look at the front brake...the original pads are still functioning effectively after I hit them with some sandpaper.



And the rear view, featuring the Superbe seatpost and a distant look at the shifters....



All of these components came to me on a Pinarello, so while I have a Superbe bottom bracket the cups are Italian threaded. That's kind of immaterial as my weak legs are demanding that I get a triplizer for the crank. The Superbe headset is also still on the Pinarello, though I'm seriously considering swapping it over to this bike.

What I really need is a set of Superbe pedals.
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Slowly converting my Trek over to Superbe.




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I've been meaning to post some pics of my Superbe-equipped Trek 614 here for a while, but I hadn't gotten around to taking decent pictures. I had it out for a ride yesterday and corrected that.
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Slowly converting my Trek over to Superbe.
Awww yeah, look at all that Superbe love! The Euro-snobs can keep their Campy, I still think Superbe was the best group, EVAR!
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Oh man, how did I not know about this thread?!?

Here is my 1974 Schwinn Paramount P15 that I took from a super sad and broken state, with the help of some BF members (so incredibly key to its success), and painted/restored/built up with first generation Superbe (and a same-same Sugino Super Mighty crankset). Non Superbe bits are Suntour cartridge bearing hubbed wheels, Campy BB (ISO taper) and headset. Rear brake bridge replaced and lowered to allow standard reach side-pull calipers, steerer replaced entirely, right side top tube brake cable housing stops removed and replaced with clamps. John Deere Blitz Black satin black repaint (yes, I primered!).

To my very limited knowledge, I do not know of another this-era (or close) Paramount with Superbe. I've seen a Waterford Paramount with SP and I was drooling. I am also drooling over mine as it rides superbly well! I understand Campagnolo (and have groups on other bikes), and there are a few pieces on here, but for this vintage, I wouldn't trade the Superbe for anything.

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Oh man, how did I not know about this thread?!?
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
Oh man, how did I not know about this thread?!?
Very nice! Keep your eyes open and eventually fill it all out in Superbe. Note you have a PRO rear derailleur (RD-3100), but a non-Pro front derailleur (FD-1500) - for shame Next find the RD-2000 which is the match. again, you did a great job!

Hear is the FD-2000.

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Originally Posted by Don Buska
Very nice! Keep your eyes open and eventually fill it all out in Superbe. Note you have a PRO rear derailleur (RD-3100), but a non-Pro front derailleur (FD-1500) - for shame Next find the RD-2000 which is the match. again, you did a great job!

Hear is the FD-2000.

I wondered if there would be some Suntour super sleuths out there who might have something to say.

Thank you for your insights (and for your compliments!). I am happy with the pieces I have on there at present. I will keep my eyes peeled for others--I often do just because its so rare (and often still in good shape).
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