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Old 08-15-15, 11:26 PM
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Only have one that would qualify. In fact, the only reason I put it together was for Cino Heroica.



'64 Atala Grand Prix. Suntour bar ends, Campy SR FD/RD, NR crankset (triplized). C-record/mavic wheelset. Mafac brakes and Ideale leather saddle. Bars are getting changed out, probably for a set of moustache bars.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
How about Wisconsin?
Let me rephrase. If we have to get there by plane, and pay crazy money to get a bike there, (not to mention the risk) it ain't going to happen
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Originally Posted by squirtdad View Post
Not really thinking about the eroica, but have aspirations at doing the cino Heroica in few years (get the kid in college...am trying to get him to think about Carroll College in Helena Mt...could do the Cino and visit him) (it is a top rated punter (4.5 star on Kohls punting) just in case any of you are a college special teams coach )

My torpado would qualify

1984
campy downtube friction shifters
campy derailers
Universal brakes, with cable out the top
36 hole rims and for bonus points am running tubies (Tufo per Robbies direction )
saddle is a turbo...techincally from 89 but same as what was originally speced.

I would have to swap out the pedals, as I have spd/platform combo on it now.

certainly not as pretty as any so far posted....probably the most 'patina" of the bunch


That looks fun, too. Bonus is my daughter lives in Helena (nice town). No way am I taking a bike with me, flying to Helena. It's bad just getting there with a bit of luggage. But two Torpados, that would be cool.
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If I were to do the event, I would probably take the '80 Mclean "perfect pleasure" - campy triple, shimano crane rear der. (32t big cog), retrofriction shifters, 32mm tires.
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I think from a health and safety standpoint, banning clipless pedals is a poor notion.

Clipless pedals came in with Bernard Hinault popularizing them and predated index shifting.

Blow a friction shift? Curse. Take a tumble firmly clipped in a toe-clip bike, hello knee surgery? Vintage things are cool but I don't see modern helmets, Nomex suits, or fire extinguishers banned in vintage track and motorcycle racing. The challenge is there but the catastrophic risk is mitigated.
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Originally Posted by norskagent View Post
If I were to do the event, I would probably take the '80 Mclean "perfect pleasure" - campy triple, shimano crane rear der. (32t big cog), retrofriction shifters, 32mm tires.
No arguments from me on that choice.

I am amazed what that young man (McLean Fonvielle) was able to produce so many years ago.

One of the nicest riding bikes I have the pleasure to throw a leg over.

My 1980 McLean Perfect Pleasure.

I've swapped out the saddle, pedals, tires and gearing since this shot.

I would have to think it would be a fairly decent climber at this point.

It certainly handled the New Glarus area hills when we were riding down there three weeks ago.

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Interesting yours is 531, mine is (I believe) columbus. There appears to be a feint dove stamp on the steer tube, plus the previous owner stated so.
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Originally Posted by norskagent View Post
Interesting yours is 531, mine is (I believe) columbus. There appears to be a feint dove stamp on the steer tube, plus the previous owner stated so.
Yes, he built with SL, SP, 531 and 753 before he passed.

Maybe more, but that's what a couple of McLean fans have shared with me since I purchased the bike.
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Lots of ways to go Eroica if so inclined. My usual 2 are good to go anytime.
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Lots of ways to go Eroica if so inclined. My usual 2 are good to go anytime.
Two of my all-time favorites.

For sure.
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I've got a copper 25" 1980 Super Course 12 that somehow WRK101 Jedi Mind-Tricked me into wanting during a horse-trade.

So It's going to have a few stealth modernizations and fit changes to be semi-Eroica:

-bars are little scrawny man 40cm bars. I'll be swapping them for some B115s in 45cm:


-the rather ineffective Raliegh stamped Weinmanns are being replaced with nutted Tektro dual pivots. Tempted to swap the levers for the Cane Creek levers with the poo-brown hoods.





-Crankset will be swapped out with the Holdsworth retro replica that's a big boy friendly 175mm length and knee-friendlier 48/34 chainrings


Saddle will be a Selle An Atomica.

Pedals will be these utterly legit 1984/5 Bernard Hinault era LOOKs like these. I'm not going to revisit pavement like the old days...I was more pliable at 21 than 40+






So, it'll still be a 12 speed BarCon shifted Raliegh-pantographed Suntour equipped machine, probably rolling on some form of polished rim wheels with cassette hubs (12-28)...made out of 531 with classic clubman geometry. I might do some Suntour derailleur transplant surgery to keep that Raliegh pantograph but a long cage.

I'll be 45 with a body worn pretty well by 22 years of the Army by the time it's finished; I'm a realist about suffering for the sake of suffering. I don't need a tweed hat and an ill fitting bike to prove that I can keep it mostly real.
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'75 Ritchey.....

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Originally Posted by Spaghetti Legs View Post
a Merckx with C-Record that doesn't. .
If it's lugged steel and you dump the indexed levers it should qualify.
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If I were to go, there would be options to consider. I am sure you all get tired of me reposting the same pics! At least I am not alone.

I am not sure I would take this '83 vintage:
[IMG]1983 Colnago Superissimo, on Flickr[/IMG]

This "84 vintage frame with "72 vintage components would be a good candidate after painting:
[IMG]1983 Trek 610 60 cm (24&quot], on Flickr[/IMG]

This "72 vintage might also be a good selection after cleaning up:
[IMG]1972 Bottecchia Giro D'italia 60cm ], on Flickr[/IMG]

And this "84 vintage would work once it is built up:

[IMG]1984 Trek 760 60cm as acquired , on Flickr[/IMG]
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes View Post
1- Bike must be pre-1989 (some sites say 1987)
2- Bike must use toe clips (let's just say no clipless)
3- Brake cable must exit the top of the levers
4- DT shifters
With a few exceptions, this pretty describes all of my "riders." Heck, these pretty much describe the way I have my Boulder and Velo-Routier set up also.
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5 of my 7 do or could qualify with minimal parts swapping. 4 are Gitanes...
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I have 3.... maybe 4

Falcon:


Viscount:



Romic: (Would need to change the cranks)


Trek 660: '89 True Temper Team. Vintage components.... so maybe

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I don't think any of my bikes qualify-

Everything has like 90s parts on 'em.
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My Superia would comply to those rules. I'm not sure how old it is exactly but I'm sure it's from somewhere between 1980 and 1984, judging by the Shimano 600 groupset...

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Originally Posted by brandon98 View Post
Pedals will be these utterly legit 1984/5 Bernard Hinault era LOOKs like these.
I'd rethink that. I think toe clips and straps are the only allowed retention system.
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Pedals will be these utterly legit 1984/5 Bernard Hinault era LOOKs like these.
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I'd rethink that. I think toe clips and straps are the only allowed retention system.
Two things are clear here; first is that clip-less pedals did exist before 1987. Second is that they are not allowed at L'Eroica, period!

A friend of mine got called for it at Eroica California this year and had to change their pedals the night before. Several years ago in Italy I saw someone losing their argument at the pre-ride bike inspection. Their claim was for medical necessity due to knee problems. The result was that their 1985 pedals were NOT allowed. I have seen others who got by the bike inspection only to have their numbers pulled during the event for non-conforming equipment.
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Maybe if one was crazy enough, I'd give them a pass and let them sport Cinelli M71 track clipless.
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I've got a few bikes that qualify, but my upgraded Cilo Pacer with fat tubulars is what I'll take. This photo was actually taken along the Eroica CA route. I rode the medium route, but not on the day of the event. Worked out great. Prior travel plans prevented me from going to inaugural Eroica CA, but I'm planning to be there in 2016.

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My 78 Colnago Super qualifies, and I would just love to ride this bike with the bikes I've seen in this thread -

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My 78 Colnago Super qualifies, and I would just love to ride this bike with the bikes I've seen in this thread -

Love that bike.
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