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Old 08-19-17, 07:31 AM
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VintageCannondale Decals

Beautiful builds all, and a good source for info and inspiration as I build up my 1987 ST600.

I just received decals from VintageCannondale and was surprised to find that they're vinyl transfer and not water slide decals. I had been assuming I would have to clear coat after applying decals. For those of you with experience with the decals from VintageCannondale (@rccardr @sdn40 and others) do you clear coat over them? If not, do they seem durable enough?

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I do not clear coat over them. Other than the top tube name decals, they are very durable. For the top tube name decals, you need to make sure they are pressed on firmly, then be careful with them for a month or so until the adhesive completely sets. Helps to leave the bike in the sun for awhile as well.

The decals on my ST were installed almost three years ago and they look as good today as the day they were put on- remember too that the ST gets shipped all over the US to riding events, so it's had some pretty roug handling.
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I got my vinyl decals from ebay. The guy was cool to work with and did some custom things for me. Every color in the rainbow too. Very inexpensive option.
He has even posted the custom stuff I wanted on ebay and has sold a few
I would prefer waterslide as well. The vinyl does have an edge -- so that is a downside IMO. Sooner or later something is bound to catch on it.
Also if you have some custom things made - realize that thinner letters obviously don't have as much glue surface. Time will tell as far as longevity, but the price was right for me at the time
An upside would be that you could remove and change colors if you wanted to. Obviously if you pay $50 at Vintage Cannondale, it could get pricey

At the end of the day, trust what @rccardr says as he has done many builds

I dont think I would invest in a clear coat over the top - that's an expensive add

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Really like that blue (with a touch of green)!
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Originally Posted by rccardr
I'd suggest avoiding Shimano 5800, however. The combination of wide chainstays and the clamping FD from that series does not result in a happy shifting bike. 5800 works great on SR's with a braze on FD, just not the ST. But virtually anything else from the Shimano lineup works perfectly!
Is the 5800 FD with an aftermarket clamp any different from other modern FDs by Shimano?...Ultegra for example.
Is the cage design different or what makes it not work well?
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Can't speak to any other 11 speed Shimano groupset on an ST frame other than 5800. Spent a Lost Weekend trying to get the clamping FD to work smoothly and consistently without success. I've installed 5800 on a half dozen bikes without trouble, but they all used braze on FD's. The original 5800 series had/has a long arm design and I think the strain of the cable on the high arm just twisted it out of alignment, no matter how tight the clamp was and where the foundation set screw was tightened (this series of FD's has a separate set screw in the body, supposedly to keep it from twisting under load).

So I gave up and went in another direction, which was Deore FD/RD, Sugino compact double crankset, 10 speed DA downtube shifters, 10 speed 11/34 cassette on an Ultegra hub/Mavic Open Pro wheelset. Solid, solid, solid drivetrain that gets more miles than any other bike in the stable.

Later bought a braze on 5800 FD and installed the same 5800 group on an SR frame of the same vintage. Perfect shifting, easy setup.

Ineresting that Shimano just announced an updated 5801 FD with a different design that uses a shorter arm. Not part of the group as yet, available separately.
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Feeding from two bicycles--my '16 Trek Emonda and '85 Ross to a lesser extent--my new-to-me proper Cannondale touring has been created! I was originally eyeing a 1986 ST500 in Navy metallic blue (my '86 SR400 is the same gorgeous color) for $225 with some valuable bits, but then this 1985 ST400 popped up for a third less. All original, but needing a lot of love (read, touch-up paint). The ST400 in this year was second and the only touring bike companion to the higher level ST500. As always, the frame is the same, but the fork and components are a step down. No matter, and if anything, a benefit as it was the only touring bike that year to offer low-rider mid-fork rack bosses. Three bottle cage mounts and dual fender+rack mounts were standard on both.

A very slack HT angle at 72 was initially a concern as I am used to and do like steeper angles. No worries as the trail is 54mm. The test ride of the bike in its original form revealed lovely handling with somewhat fidgety shift action. I knew that a modern setup would really reveal the frame's nature, more than the period pieces. BB drop is measured at 75mm, which was a great surprise. My Ross, as wonderful as it is, has a BB drop of just 56mm!

The black metallic paint is wonderfully rich and deep, with a nice sparkle in direct sunlight. It works so well with any and all silver and black components. I wanted to re-commission my 7800 shifters as they had been sitting in a shifter/brake box for most of the year, and this was my chance to pair the big shifters to the big-tubed and long wheelbase'd bike. High polish and wider Weinmann wheels (with Campy freehub splines) would complement this classy ride and provide a firm foundation for the 32mm tires (Continental Grand Sport Race folding units, ultimately). The overall wheel diameter would be 0.5mm less than the original 27" x 1 1/8" wheel/tire combo--still good for fender duty.

The ST awaits fenders for winter and rain duty, and will replace my venerable Ross. The extra and proper touring features elevate this ST to the top of the any-time, any-weather, almost-anything capability rankings. It's much deeper BB drop, stronger frame, touring bits, and clearance for large tires and fenders, are a very welcome addition and something I've been looking for in this kind of bike.

It has nearly all 7800 Dura-Ace on it--not entirely planned that way. It just fell into place. Folding tires to keep it light as I want the ride and the flat protection (to say nothing of looking alright when dirty, unlike tan wall tires), but not the plodding feeling and higher overall weight. She checks in at just 22.8 lbs! Soma Highway One bars, quill stem to 110mm 26.0 stem adapter in matching gloss black (looks soooo good!), older Fizik Aliente 'Carbon' saddle (very comfortable), and somehow appropriate-looking Specialized Ribcage bottle cages (from the racy Trek).

The frame is rigid in all the right ways, allowing great power transfer and no flex. Tires, saddle, bar tape and shifters take up any other bad vibrations. 7800 STI's shift so sweetly, it is a welcome re-addition to my fleet. The bike, out of the saddle while accelerating, absolutely dances beneath. It is so easy to rock it back and forth. Steering is very responsive, allowing last-second avoidance of hazards. You definitely feel the long wheelbase, and it is reassuringly stable. What a bike!

Now for pictures (no fenders yet, but I have them!):







An Indoor Special, but the black is dark as night and a bit sinister. These long bikes have a jet-like aesthetic to them, proportionally. I like.

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Nice work on that- a true Sport/Touring, go anywhere, do anything, ride-it-all-day bike!
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Originally Posted by rccardr
Nice work on that- a true Sport/Touring, go anywhere, do anything, ride-it-all-day bike!
Thank you! Commuted on it today, taking an extra long route home after working pretty late. What a superb bike. Just, so good. Good enough to have me question why I have some of the bikes I do--no hyperbole!
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Since I looked here to find out more about this bike, here are some pictures of the finished fix-me-up.
I saw a couple of these red/white color combinations here, and this one seems to be like the rest, Sport LX and Exage components. Seems to be pretty original.
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Just finished this one - a donation from one son-in-law to another. It's a 1995 R800 with Dura Ace Group and Coda one-piece double crank. Very cool bike, but pretty twitchy for an old guy like me. Hope it fits the son-in-law!

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Originally Posted by embankmentlb
modolo carbon fiber shift levers.
i bought the first pair we got at the shop i worked at in 1986 when i was 18, no one had ever seen them before. and i was building my first road bike, a white cannondale frame with a vitus fork.
bought from our lead race mechanic as his former time trial bike. it was an original run of some special model withrace geometry, but with a third set of water bottle braze-ons under the down tube like a touring bike. i believe it was welded up in 83' or 84'.
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What does everyone use to clean and protect the paint on their cannondale?
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For me, it's Simple Green or (truthfully, most of the time) Kaboom tub and tile cleaner (foaming kind!) with a shop rag or old shirt for general cleaning and caked dirt removal. For restorative efforts, the next step is an auto rubbing compound for light scratch removal and any funky-discoloration-in-the-paint removal. Immediately afterwards, to build up the paint/clear coat from the compound, is carnuba wax (I use Meguiar's) for final protection and gloss. Cannondale paint is not the most rugged, but like anything, if you take care of it, it will last a long time.
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I've used Flitz metal polish and hand-rubbing with a rag to make pretty scruffy paint really shine.
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel
For me, it's Simple Green or (truthfully, most of the time) Kaboom tub and tile cleaner (foaming kind!) with a shop rag or old shirt for general cleaning and caked dirt removal. For restorative efforts, the next step is an auto rubbing compound for light scratch removal and any funky-discoloration-in-the-paint removal. Immediately afterwards, to build up the paint/clear coat from the compound, is carnuba wax (I use Meguiar's) for final protection and gloss. Cannondale paint is not the most rugged, but like anything, if you take care of it, it will last a long time.
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I've used Flitz metal polish and hand-rubbing with a rag to make pretty scruffy paint really shine.
Thanks for the recs. I've got some dull spots in the finish from cable locks, water bottles, and zip ties. Hoping one of these works!
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Originally Posted by Chuckk
Interesting read on butted tubes:
Vari-Wall, the brand-behind-the-brand. Part One
Wow! That's a really interesting read! Thanks for posting!
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Part I was a year ago, did a part II ever come out? (Sorry if that sounds greedy, it was a very interesting read.) Did they ever answer the question about taking over for True Temper? It was interesting to read about how a company I'd never heard of had its hands in so many parts of so many different bikes.
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Fantastic read, indeed! Thank you!
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So here's my first attempt to share a picture since the image shack debacle. Trying a new hosting site. <a href="https://ibb.co/cBMa6G"><img src="https://preview.ibb.co/k21KYw/20170224_155126.jpg"

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90sKid: I've got the same 3.0 frame and paint scheme. I remember walking into the LBS and immediately falling in love with the light-blue to dark-blue fade. It was the main reason that I bought the bike. It was the first real bike that I bought and I still have it since '92. It took years before others in my group saw the fade, however I do ride with a bunch of heathens. However, mine 'dale has a triple crank and the RX100 group. I can't tell you how many miles that I have put on the bike, but I've been through one rear cassette, two saddles, and three wheel sets. The rear cassette installed by a LBS is a MB cassette with a large 32T cog. Combined with the 30T chainring, I can almost climb a wall with it. However, unlike your upgraded brifters, I love getting comments from younger riders during large rides who can't figure out how I shift gears since they have never seen DT shifters.
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Latest project: 1989 Black Lightning frame (purchased from Flog00) with all new Shimano 5800 11 speed, Shimano lightweight RS21 wheelset, Cannondale C3 seatpost, stem and shallow drop bars, Continental Grand Prix 400 tires, etc. Only thing not new on this is the frame, and it's original paint in very nice condition. Size 58, so 56cm CTC for seat and top tubes. By collecting the parts over time when they were on sale, it was also surprisingly affordable, especially considering that unlike many new branded bikes, this one has ALL 5800 including the cranks and brakes, plus the premium wheelset and tires.


This is the fourth SR-to-5800 conversion I've done since 2014, and each one has been just wonderful, like the frame and group were made for each other:



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