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Old 11-05-19, 06:53 AM
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The KMC chain is a good replacement. They make several different chains for 6-7-8 speed drivetrains.
The SRAM 830-850-870 chains are also very good.
Both brands come with quick release connectors.
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The newer KMC quick connectors are one-time use.
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The newer KMC quick connectors are one-time use.
That's as an idea as those infernal breakaway pins on the Shimanos. Makes me glad I just scored a bunch of NOS 8-speed SRAMs.
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Ditto, KMC chains, although I reuse the Missing Links so often they can be taken apart with just my fingers. I've probably popped 'em apart and reused 'em a dozen or more times each. So far, so good, haven't had a quick link pop open unexpectedly. Only problem with the original Missing Link design was you needed a tool of some kind until the metal wore just a little on the Missing Links. I supposed it could be "tuned" by filing the engagement surfaces just a tiny bit.

I'm sure KMC wouldn't approve but that's the only hitch with the original Missing Links. They aren't "quick links" until they're worn a bit or unless you tote a tool to get 'em apart.
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^^^^^ Isn't there a thread here on how to use the wire part of a spring-y office binder clip as a "plier" to unlock one of those KMC not-so-quick links? Or is it an RJ youtube video?
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Old 11-06-19, 03:15 PM
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Hey fellas...I have a question. What color is the red on the 1987 Ironman Expert? (Don't say red.) I'm kind of color blind and different shades of color give me a hard time. I'm thinking kind of a fire engine red. I'm looking for red water bottle cages that would match the Ironman Red. I ordered some and when it arrived it was more like a candy apple red. Didn't match at all. I know this is a really small problem, but it bugs me if the reds don't match. Thanks for any help.

So I tried Testors Gloss red and it's a little brighter than the Ironman red. Any other ideas on matching the color? I'm stumped.

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I donít know if itís the same , but Krylon scb-005 Red Pepper is a very good match on a 86 IM
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I donít know if itís the same , but Krylon scb-005 Red Pepper is a very good match on a 86 IM
Thanks Mark!
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Speaking of color matches has anyone figured out a match for these colors?
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Testors Light Blue 1108 , maybe . Hummm , now that I see the two next together . Needs a little some thing . Cool thing about the Testors kits is doing a little mixing .

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Testors Light Blue 1108 , maybe . Hummm , now that I see the two next together . Needs a little some thing . Cool thing about the Testors kits is doing a little mixing .

Maybe with a little green added? I am going to need a pretty near perfect match, I am going to have to touch up a pretty good sized spot. Is the white the same as other years?
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To touch up a large area I would suggest a air brush . Or maybe not , I would def use spot putty (single part 3M) first , though . For the white , don't know , because I have never seen it for real . From the picture it looks white / white . Where my 86' is almost a off/ white .
TX is yours a 87' or 88' ? 87' Marine grn . 88' Teal grn. .
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Slowly getting some work done on my MV - I don't want to move too fast since I have until next spring to get it done. A couple things I'm realizing; first, about 50% of the marks/chips are caked on grease and muck, and second, matching the paint will be a bit of trial and error (but you all knew that). I'm finding that 0000 steel wool with a citrus solvent is working on all of the grease marks, although it does dull the finish slightly. Once I get the paint touch-up finished, I'll do some sanding and finish the whole frame with rubbing and polishing compounds and wax - the test areas look pretty decent, though. As far as the painting goes, I bought a few small bottles of acrylic paint at a local art store and did some mixing and matching. I need to get the right balance/mixture before I do all the spots. The photo is a shot of my most recent attempt - pre-sanding. After it hardens, I'll level and finish the spot to see how closely I've come, and when I get it right, I'll post the paint and mixture that I used.

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^^^^^ For the grease marks, try a mix of the solvent (or something like Fluid Film) and baking soda. Just enough abrasive to crack loose things like tar, grease, etc, but shouldn't dull the finish (or at least much less so than steel wool).
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Seatpost binder bolt info. The one on the right is an original one from an 86'. The other one I have is listed as a 22mm. Both are 22mm from the outside of the heads. The non original will not work. Per picture, the keyed side is the reason why. When looking for one that will work, the key side length needs to be 11mm from the key/14mm from the inside of the head to the other end.


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Seatpost binder bolt info. The one on the right is an original one from an 86'. The other one I have is listed as a 22mm. Both are 22mm from the outside of the heads. The non original will not work. Per picture, the keyed side is the reason why. When looking for one that will work, the key side length needs to be 11mm from the key/14mm from the inside of the head to the other end.

Thanks SS, I found one in my stash so all is good. I am in the process of refreshing the grease and deciding on some cosmetics...Ben
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Thanks SS, I found one in my stash so all is good. I am in the process of refreshing the grease and deciding on some cosmetics...Ben
I need one for the bike I am working on for my Daughter. Do you have a p/n or a source for one that works?
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I need one for the bike I am working on for my Daughter. Do you have a p/n or a source for one that works?
Hi TXS,
I don't have a part number..the one that I used did not have the key and I believe it was a MICHE brand?
Sorry, Ben
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Awesome thread guys! Iím gathering some great info about my recently acquired Carbon R. A buddy found it complete, less wheelset) a few months ago dumped outside his office. He knows I love a good project, so he tossed it my way. Itís in great shape, and today I picked up a wheelset for it. Plan is to throw a chain and pedals on it tomorrow and gift it a test ride before tearing it all down for cleaning, re-clearing the Carbon, and polishing the aluminum before building it back up. Iíll get some pics up once I hit 10 posts, lol.
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Looking at my posts from four months ago... *sigh*

I'm not sure how you guys were so patient.
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Originally Posted by TriBiker19 View Post
Looking at my posts from four months ago... *sigh*

I'm not sure how you guys were so patient.
That's why this is such a good forum.

And there are no zombie threads in C&V. Only classic and vintage threads dusted off for an overdue ride around the block.
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^^^^^ +1; if the bike is older than the thread, you're fine.
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Quick question here about geometry.

I've perused the thread a bit but there's a lot to go through, so can anyone confirm or correct this summary about seat tube angles?

1986-1988 74.5į STA
1989 73į STA

STA is a big factor in whether a bike will fit me or not.

Thanks!
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Quick question here about geometry.

I've perused the thread a bit but there's a lot to go through, so can anyone confirm or correct this summary about seat tube angles?

1986-1988 74.5į STA
1989 73į STA

STA is a big factor in whether a bike will fit me or not.

Thanks!
I don't think the difference was that much from '88 to '89.
Perhaps in 1985, when there was more clearance, it was the shallower number.
There is anecdotal evidence (and I believe) that the 1989 was a quicker handler. It might have just been gas.
Centurion told the bike magazines it tweaked the '89 the geometry, but never provided accurate and up to date numbers.
My educated guess would be that the 1985 was the smoothest and most stable, hence the shallowest.
It seems like the '86 was a bit quicker, and I can't really say if the '87 and '88 followed this trend or were the same.
It seems like the black '89's were a bit twitchy, but I didn't feel this way about my '89 fade. Probably in my head.
I'm sure the numbers are out there, but whether the entire lineup conforms to some static numbers, I simply don't know.
They all ride the same to me from '86 on: like an Italian for 1/5 the price.
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I'm sure the numbers are out there, but whether the entire lineup conforms to some static numbers, I simply don't know.
They all ride the same to me from '86 on: like an Italian for 1/5 the price.
Thanks Robbie!

The only IMs that really tickle my fancy are the 87 and 88 Masters and Experts, especially the "Miami Vice" magenta, marine green & white, and the purple fade on the 88s.

Good to know that they should all pretty much be the same geo-wise.
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