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Old 10-26-15, 08:43 AM
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Help to identify bike brand and original decals

Hi from Spain,

I have recently bought a road bike. At the beginning I believed that the bike was a Contini or Romani, but when I was removing the paint I discovered the Rossin logo. Any way, I don't find any bike with the same shape decals.

A curious thing: the Rossin logo was covered with some kind of "concrete" or "gum", I don't know the specific word.

PIC 1: https://i62.tinypic.com/2gv60li.jpg

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PIC 2 LARGE: https://oi61.tinypic.com/mwy43l.jpg


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that's odd, but I think you have a frame with a replacement fork (in this case from a Rossin) which may not match the frame brand. The fork is almost certainly made with Columbus tubing (not 531) and somebody filled in the panto with "Bondo" and repainted.Do the fork ends (probably Campagnolo) match the dropouts?
Detail about the frame: what's the BB threading?
What size seatpost does it take?
Any 'rifling" in the main tubes at the base (look inside the BB shell)?
Any serial numbers on the frame? (and do they match those on the fork steerer?)
Some more detail close-ups of the seat cluster , underside of BB shell, etc. may be helpful.
I'd be very surprised if this was built with 531 Red label (SL) tubing, but...anything's possible!
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Well, the fork certainly looks like Rossin. That the logo was filled with Bondo or something suggests that it may be a replacement. Any evidence of frame damage?
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Originally Posted by unworthy1 View Post
that's odd, but I think you have a frame with a replacement fork (in this case from a Rossin) which may not match the frame brand. The fork is almost certainly made with Columbus tubing (not 531) and somebody filled in the panto with "Bondo" and repainted.Do the fork ends (probably Campagnolo) match the dropouts? Detail about the frame: what's the BB threading? What size seatpost does it take? Any 'rifling" in the main tubes at the base (look inside the BB shell)? Any serial numbers on the frame? (and do they match those on the fork steerer?) Some more detail close-ups of the seat cluster , underside of BB shell, etc. may be helpful. I'd be very surprised if this was built with 531 Red label (SL) tubing, but...anything's possible!
I found the same serial number under the BB Shell: CT 171. So... is it a Rossin frame? I couldn't find any frame Rossin x 531 in internet, all of them were columbus, Is it possible that other bike brand used Rossin frames in his bikes? And this would be the reason about the presence of "bondo".

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Well, the fork certainly looks like Rossin. That the logo was filled with Bondo or something suggests that it may be a replacement. Any evidence of frame damage?
Nop.
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No it looks too "unrefined" to be a Rossin frame, I think only the fork is made by Rossin. Whatever the frame brand it looks a bit generic with the lugs not thinned and the BB shell, which IS Italian threaded a little straight-out-of-the-box looking too, plus the ears on the seatlug look a bit pinched so somebody may have put a too-small seatpost in it and tightened it too much to try to make it work. The serial number CT 171 doesn't ring any bell but might indicate a small output builder, and perhaps CT=Contini...I don't know!
EDIT: I'll speculate some more (why not?) maybe only the fork CROWN is something made for Rossin but a leftover that a contractor had on-hand and could explain why that logo was filled in...there's a lot of contractor-building that takes place in Italy and in some cases the "Name" in the brandname doesn't want it to be known that some other hands were involved with his product..."diluting the brand" as the marketeers would say.
A picture that comes to mind is in the Ciocc Blog wherein Giovanni Pellizoli (of Ciocc fame) unearths some old boxes in his workshop and sees they are filled with Masi CV3 frame components which got him mistily recalling all the "Masi" frames he had built for his "competition"...I'm sure things like this are the tip of a very big Italian iceberg!

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