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Old 11-12-15, 08:17 AM
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Help with this french rando/tourer

What are these rear mid stay braze ons for? They are on both rear stays.

I know somebody on here knows.
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Probably for mounting mudguards. I note that the underside of the brake bridge also has a mudguard mount point.
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They're for a rear rack. I'm assuming that's a Gilles Berthoud frame?

Can be seen here:



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i would guess that they are for a rear low-rider rack, or possibly to bolt on a bottle generator.
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Originally Posted by vqstaphbeard
They're for a rear rack. I'm assuming that's a Gilles Berthoud frame?

Can be seen here:


Wow. It looks like that bike was specially designed to tour across the runway of a fashion show. You'd never ride it like that.
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I thimk it's specifically the forward mount for pannier frames.....
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Originally Posted by rhm
Wow. It looks like that bike was specially designed to tour across the runway of a fashion show. You'd never ride it like that.
You're right.

Can't pedal a bike without 'em.
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Originally Posted by gugie
You're right.

Can't pedal a bike without 'em.
Hah. I see what you did there....
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Originally Posted by vqstaphbeard
They're for a rear rack. I'm assuming that's a Gilles Berthoud frame?

Can be seen here:


Thank you!

And I would agree, that's some set up.
1700. worth of bags alone.
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I like this set up.

[IMG]Gray day by Arthur, on Flickr[/IMG]
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To heck with the bags, I just want to do a ride with a view of the Eiffel Tower.
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Originally Posted by gomango
I like this set up.

[IMG]Gray day by Arthur, on Flickr[/IMG]
There's a few guys that post over on flickr that I'd trade lives with. Arthur is one of them, kick-my-pan is another. Full quivers of classic and modern rando bikes, riding around France all day long and taking pictures.
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Originally Posted by gugie
There's a few guys that post over on flickr that I'd trade lives with. Arthur is one of them, kick-my-pan is another. Full quivers of classic and modern rando bikes, riding around France all day long and taking pictures.
I follow their Flickrs like a drooling lab.

When I retire I hope to give them some reasonable competition.
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The very nice lady that is involved with "Bike touring News" in Boise has this exact setup (in fact this bike my be hers?). Anyway, I concur, the mounts are indeed for the rear lowrider racks.

Cheers!


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They're for a rear rack. I'm assuming that's a Gilles Berthoud frame?

Can be seen here:


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Originally Posted by Chris W.
The very nice lady that is involved with "Bike touring News" in Boise has this exact setup (in fact this bike my be hers?). Anyway, I concur, the mounts are indeed for the rear lowrider racks.

Cheers!
So does Bill @ wallbike.
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You should do a less cryptic thread with some nice pix.

Sounds like a cool bike.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
You should do a less cryptic thread with some nice pix.

Sounds like a cool bike.

ok

I do not take very good pic of anything but watches, but these are the ones
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Originally Posted by gomango
I like this set up.

[IMG]Gray day by Arthur, on Flickr[/IMG]
You & me both! But where exactly does that rear rack mount? Not to a seat stay braze-on; is it integrated with the water bottle cage?
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Originally Posted by gaucho777
You & me both! But where exactly does that rear rack mount? Not to a seat stay braze-on; is it integrated with the water bottle cage?
In an earlier pic, it looked like there was a slot on the stay and a clamp on the seat tube.

Next to the water bottle cage.

Let me do some intensive pic investigation.
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Originally Posted by gomango
In an earlier pic, it looked like there was a slot on the stay and a clamp on the seat tube.

Next to the water bottle cage.

Let me do some intensive pic investigation.
I think there is a braze-on on the seat tube just above the water bottle.

Very nice bike and pic
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Originally Posted by Chris W.
The very nice lady that is involved with "Bike touring News" in Boise has this exact setup (in fact this bike my be hers?)
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So does Bill @ wallbike.
Amazing, how many people ride without pedals!

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You & me both! But where exactly does that rear rack mount? Not to a seat stay braze-on; is it integrated with the water bottle cage?
Yeah, there's something suspicious (not to say photoshoppy) going on there. You can see where the fender stay is attached to the dropout, but the rear rack has no visible hardware at either seat stay or chain stay, nor even the fender. There's something at the seat tube, but I don't think it's integrated with the water bottle cage.
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The rack clamps at the seat tube.
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Originally Posted by vqstaphbeard
The rack clamps at the seat tube.
Correct information.

Dig into the fellow's Flickr when you have several hours.

It's a dreamland of vintage bike goodness.
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Originally Posted by gomango
Correct information.

Dig into the fellow's Flickr when you have several hours.

It's a dreamland of vintage bike goodness.
Way ahead of you. I've been following for a while and wasted too much time looking through.
That's how I knew it clamped at the seat tube
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I had to look at quite a few photos before I found the money shot.

Yes, the rack clamps to the seat tube; but that's not all. There's also a pretty beefy attachment at the dropout; you can see it here:
[IMG]Jo Routens by Arthur, on Flickr[/IMG]

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