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Old 12-07-15, 01:15 PM
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Cinelli Lugs without Cinelli Seat Cluster

I hope I'm not shooting myself in the foot with this one.

This frame showed up on E-Bay. A bit mangled with what appears to be a rear bottle cage attached with wood screws, and no factory logos, but otherwise in good shape.



It is listed as a Cinelli (shipped from Europe). The lugs all appear to be Cinelli, but it doesn't have the traditional Cinelli seat cluster.

Long horizontal dropouts makes me think 80's, but the fork crown looks 90's. Front derailleur hanger might also put it into the 90's.

Thoughts?

Cinelli?

Homebuilt?
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Old 12-07-15, 01:42 PM
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Run.
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Old 12-07-15, 01:59 PM
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I was like, why run? Then I saw the seat tube. I say run as well.
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Old 12-07-15, 02:11 PM
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Can't help with its true origin but given that you are in Portland where framebuilders are a dime a dozen, new bosses for the seat tube should be pretty inexpensive. If the price for the frame is ok, there's no need to run away unless you're just in love with the beat up paint on the seat tube.
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Old 12-07-15, 02:15 PM
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You can get those bosses fixed for 50 bucks or so.
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Old 12-07-15, 02:42 PM
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I was like, why run? Then I saw the seat tube. I say run as well.
Actually, the bottle mounts on the seat tube is one of the things that makes me think I might be able to get a "bargain".

I'm not quite in Portland, but I was thinking about $5 for the cage boss repairs, plus a repaint.

My question is whether anybody thinks this is a genuine Cinelli, and what year/model it might be. The most common seat post clamp on the genuine Cinelli frames is much different. But, every lug has the Cinelli logo.

I think I've found a couple of references to Vetta frames with similar lugs and seat clusters. So... I'm leaning that way, although I'm not finding a lot of photos of the frames.


Apparently Vetta also made Schuster frames.

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Old 12-07-15, 02:54 PM
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if you have a place to get the bosses fixed and then paint the frameset, what the hell...
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Try looking on the Cinelli Only site. It covers all the different models down in the right sidebar list. That Vetta certainly looks similar.
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Old 12-07-15, 08:25 PM
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Wood screws? Guy who did that needs a few wood screws....somewhere.
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Old 12-08-15, 01:09 AM
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it has genuine Cinelli frame-bits: lugs, spoiler BB shell, brake bridge, possibly the fork (though perhaps just the crown)...but is it a Cinelli frame? Highly doubtful.
Doesn't look bad, especially if you can get a deal due to the ham-fisted screw-job on the seat tube. Then repair, repaint and enjoy your bargain. Doubt it's a Vetta, too...any clues as to the tubing? Probably decent given the frame bits used.
Those are *short* horizontal DOs and given the "spoiler BB shell not earlier than '85...if the fork is original than late '80s-early '90s is probable.

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