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Tommasini? Gipiemme dropouts/Italian BB

Old 12-11-15, 08:24 PM
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Tommasini? Gipiemme dropouts/Italian BB

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to get some eyeballs and opinions on this frame that was sold to me as a Tommasini. I bought it mostly for the Campagnolo Super Record hubset, headset and BB and with lots of skepticism about its identity. My guess is that it's not the best quality frame but I don't think it's too bad either. There are no T/Tommasini markings anywhere. Just those triangles on some of the lugwork. I'm going to take everything off of it when I get the chance to go to my University bike shop to put it on a scale and figure out what it weighs. Check out the pictures and please lay some wisdom down!























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Old 12-12-15, 10:26 AM
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I think it's legit but based on the details (very little chrome, Gipiemme dropouts, simple single color finish and above-BB cable routing) I'd say it's fairly EARLY (like maybe early '80s) plus might be a "lower tier" model...might have main tubes SL but the remainder Falck tubing/says/fork blades...just my guess.
Is that an Avocet/Ofmega crank? Might be original, and does it take nutted brakes?
What size seatpost and are there 5 spiral ridges in the inside base of the fork steerer?
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I have to be the naysayer - I don't believe it's genuine. Tommasini wasn't like Olmo, Benotto or a similar builder that made low-end stuff in addition to their top-of-the-line offerings. Here the seatstay caps, lack of reinforcing at the outer edges of the brake bridge and complete lack of pantographing/engraving say this is a re-badged something or other, but not a true Tommasini. Also, take a look at the finish at the back of the seat lug; no round hole drilled at the end of the cut.

Nice work on the dropout transitions, though - and the lugwork looks pretty good. It just hasn't been take to the next level, as it were. Sorry to be a party-pooper

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I'd side with Drillium Dude on this as well, although I have no actual evidence upon which to base it, other than I've never seen a Tommasini that was as nondescript and generic a frame as that
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Looks a lot like a Viner.
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Even the Tommasini "Racing" model had the characteristic "T" cut out of the top lug on the head tube.

This was a Tre tubi model that comes as close as I've seen to a budget model.
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It's cool. I'm just curious of what it could really be. It has Gipiemme cranks and a Gipiemme seatpost (27.2). I was also suspecting early 80's or even 79 or something. Check out how it was set up when I bought it, it was actually pretty sweet! Anybody else care to chime in?
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Originally Posted by jmonsw21
It's cool. I'm just curious of what it could really be. It has Gipiemme cranks and a Gipiemme seatpost (27.2). I was also suspecting early 80's or even 79 or something. Check out how it was set up when I bought it, it was actually pretty sweet! Anybody else care to chime in?
Looks fun! I would put on some flats and a decent saddle. Just ride that bike.
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The easy bits: definitely not a Tommasini (never see a plain one yet, and the suspect ones are invariably decals-only copies). Date: probably late 70s. Make: may need to strip some paint in strategic places to see if there are any engravings (e.g. top of seat stays) assuming it's repainted. Likely Italian frame and forks given the componentry.
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UPDATE: So I'm still sitting on this frame (I've broken it down to just the frame and fork- no bb or headset). It weighs 1,942 grams (4lbs4.5oz) and the fork 692 grams (1lb8.4oz) for a total of 2634 grams (5lbs 12.8oz) frame and fork and just ran into this on ebay: It looks very similar to the frame I have including the missing reinforcements at the brake bridge as mentioned by Drillium Dude above. Does this seem like another rebranded Italian frame?:

Used Tommasini Gara Mid 70s L'Eroica Road Bike Size 53 Red Gara | eBay

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