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Old 12-13-15, 09:09 PM
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Sell me on the best riding C&V bike you own/have owned

Curious as to which vintage steel bikes you'd say are the best rides you've ever come across.
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Old 12-13-15, 09:17 PM
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Tell me what size bike you ride and I'll sell you on the bike I have in your size that I own but want to get rid of,

Seriously though there are so many variables on this. My personal favorite is my team miyata but that's the bike I raced for a long time.

Today, my favorite C&V bikes is probably my 1984 Trek 610. I like bikes that can take a little fatter tire; there's a lot to be said for a classic Trek sports touring bike with long reach brakes for that reason.
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Old 12-13-15, 09:24 PM
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I'm a fan of the miyata as well. I'm sure if I ever got my hands on a team miyata in my size it would be mine for good!!
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Old 12-13-15, 09:52 PM
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'84 davidson challenge



it looks and performs even better now that it has an sr rd.
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I have been more into race bikes so I can only say that a good quality frame with good wheels and tires rides about the same as any other quality frame with good tires and wheels. Some will get you higher accolades from the C&V crowd than others will. If I had to pick only one race frame it would be made of Columbus SL. I love the feel of the 531 Reynolds bikes I have owned a great deal but the Columbus, to me, has just the right amount of spring to it to make the ride thrilling and just feels right (I am 200 lbs). My Miyata 912 rides great, a bit stiff compared to a Columbus or 531 frame, but performs very well.
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For sheer speed and handling, the Cannondale Criterium series. Lightning quick.
For longer rides needing a bit more flex, the Trek 760 with full 531c.
For racing heritage, light tubing with stiffness, the Colnago Super.

Why do you think so many have so many??
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I think my favorite would be a 1980 Peugeot PX-10 or PKN-10 that fit me properly -- mine was too tall and too long for me. Fortunately, my elder son gets good use out of it these days as a commuter. It just seemed to hit a sweet spot best compromise of smooth, stable, and fast.
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Italian steel, especially SLX. There's something about the italian design philosophy that just seems to work for me.

As far as best riding, I would have to go with my SLX Ciocc Designer 84.
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My DeBernardi
ITs a 1996 model , so not strictly a C&V, but more in line with what i'd call a modern classic

Bought it when i was still in college --- so my tale is likely not subjective, but emotional --- the tubeset is Aelle, not MAX or Brain or EL-OS, -- simple budget grade Aelle
In smaller sizes, the budget tubes are quite stiff, and i had a compact sprinter's physique at the time so it worked quite well

That said, this bike has been subjected to criteriums, time trials, a couple of ultra marathons, and a few long distance tours

IT almost seemed like an extension of my arm --- most generally it wore a set of Vittoria Corsa's or Conti Sprinter tubulars - and this may have contributed greatly to my perceptions on it having a great ride


I used it as my do everything ride from '96 - 2002 . I went modern for a while, but now , as a paunchy 40-something Clydesdale, --- I am led back to classic Italian steel.

I have a few other bikes i am playing around with as projects now, but I am going to refurbish this and try to re-capture lost glory --- there is a significant dent in the seat tube about 3 inches above the crank -- i am bringing it to a local framebuilder to see if they can replace the seat tube
Sounds funny, but my first thoughts are to have it painted Giro pink ---i have several white bikes now

All that stuff aside --- all i can say about the ride is i was more than happy using this for everything from 45 minute crits to a 12 hour solo ultramarathon time trial without worrying about it





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1986 DeRosa Professional SLX = 1987 Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra (SLX)

or get 3 Centurion Ironman.....
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How does one define "best handling"??? Okay, I'll define it as happy at speed, doing exactly what I want without me having to tell it what and how. That would have to be the Masi, a mid-70's Gran Criterium from Carlsbad.



Some of the other bikes are pretty darn good too though.
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Wait - we're supposed to ride them?
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For MUP riding...Tommasini Super Prestige or Bridgestone RB-1
For longer rides...Miyata 1000;
For "interesting" rides...Bridgestone XO-1;
For classic rides...Schwinn Superior or Raleigh Super Course
For trainer rides...Bianchi Veloce;
For more modern rides...Pinarello Surprise;
For "heavier weight" rides...Schwinn Super Sport;
For "blingy" rides...Raleigh Port Townsend;
For FAST rides...Colnago Super
For Dutch Rides…Gazelle Champion Mondial AA
For Aluminum rides…Schwinn Ontare

Of course, I never ride ANY other bikes! J
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The one with the 28mm tires.
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87 Miyata 912 updated to 8sp tricolor shifting. Best/most fun bike I have owene, much less come across. I admittedly dont come across nearly as many bikes due to size, so my experience is much more limited than many here.

Its like if i thought wine in a box is the best because all ive had is either wine in a box or church wine!
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I'm a fan of the miyata as well. I'm sure if I ever got my hands on a team miyata in my size it would be mine for good!!
What is your size?
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'80s Miyata 1200, with 20.5mm clinchers. Makes my Roubaix feel like a Chevy sedan.
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If I could answer this question, I wouldn't have so many bikes.
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60 or 63 would work.
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What is your size?
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I love the ride of my 72-73 Colnago Super, it's a 53cm, Columbus SL frame that I can ride all day long. Climbs and corners great.

The worst riding bike I had was an 84 Colnago Master, first generation, the Gilco tubing on such a small frame made, for my riding style at least, an extremely harsh ride.

I still ride the Super, sold the Master.
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I keep coming back to my mid-80s Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra in SLX. It is dialed in so nice right now. Seems like it can't get better, other than maybe wider tubular tires. Puts a smile on my face every time.
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I rather enjoy my 78 Raleigh Super Course with 8 speed 105.
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Curious as to which vintage steel bikes you'd say are the best rides you've ever come across.
Why?
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Old 12-14-15, 10:26 AM
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Just looking for insight on which bikes are favorites out there. Very happy with my choices, but its always good to know which others I might want to look for if I ever wanted to switch it up. I've found the feedback informative.
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I have a hard time with picking one best. The bikes I have that stand out to me:
- The Cannondale R1000 (1992, large diameter aluminum, Mavic group) is stiff, light, small (52 cm), accelerates fast, precise and solid in turns, too small for me to be comfortable after 50 miles (I feel a little cramped by the small size).
- The Raleigh Team Professional (1978, Reynolds 753, Super Record group) is smooth, light, large (58 cm), doesn't jump like the Cannondale but just as quick after the first few pedal strokes, a little slower to initiate turns then feels secure when sweeping through them, comfortable for long rides (done centuries with it).
- The Vitus 997 (1997?, carbon tubes, alloy lugs, Record 10 speed brifters) is medium size (56 cm), heavier than the other two, about as quick as the Raleigh, more comfortable than either, this bike seems to absorb bumps while still being stiff enough for sprinting.

I'm using the Vitus as my main roadie bike now.

Tires make the most difference for comfort, I think. The bikes listed above all wear 25 mm tires at 100-120 psi. I've ridden some lower end steel bikes with 32 mm tires at 70-80 psi and they are nicer on rough pavement, almost like floating carpets. I have a long term project to build myself a bike with 42 mm tires.
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