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Modify dual-pivot caliper for bottom pull?
Are there any dual-pivot calipers out there that can operate via bottom-pull? This is for a mixte frame, where the cable routing runs down the mixte stays then up the seat-stays, comme ça:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_GmYBBzTzcVQ/Rx.../TABMixte3.jpg It looks like most older single-pivot brakes could be modified, but modern calipers thread the barrel adjuster directly into the upper arm. Any ideas? Worst comes to worst I'll just run a dual-pivot in front and update the pads on the rear caliper, but I'd rather update both. |
I'd be very surprised if any exist that can be switched. I don't think I've ever seen a dual pivot that didn't just have a threaded vertical hole where the cable stop would have to be to make it work.
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I don't know why any bicycles were designed this way. Any sane person would have put the brake bridge on the middle set of stays -- straight shot and normal cable routing.
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Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky
(Post 18388231)
I don't know why any bicycles were designed this way. Any sane person would have put the brake bridge on the middle set of stays -- straight shot and normal cable routing.
On the other hand, cantilevers on that middle set of stays can hit the riders heels. A good alternative is a V-brake. My daughter can lock up the rear wheel without much effort: https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3858/1...c9eaa88b_b.jpg |
Neat frame, [MENTION=381793]gugie[/MENTION]. What is it?
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Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky
(Post 18388231)
I don't know why any bicycles were designed this way. Any sane person would have put the brake bridge on the middle set of stays -- straight shot and normal cable routing.
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Remove the cable fixing bolt and thread in a barrel adjuster. Up top you'll need to rig up a pinch bolt.
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Some calipers allow this, and some don't. I disagree that it's a bad way to route a cable.
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Originally Posted by miamijim
(Post 18388376)
Remove the cable fixing bolt and thread in a barrel adjuster. Up top you'll need to rig up a pinch bolt.
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/FOUAAO...a4/s-l1600.jpg Thread the cable through the existing barrel adjuster backwards, and fix the end with a cable knarp. |
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5570/1...226afd82_o.jpg |
Tektro 800a should work with a simple swap of the pinch bolt and adjuster.
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 18388520)
Some calipers allow this, and some don't. I disagree that it's a bad way to route a cable.
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
(Post 18391874)
I know that routing the cables like that make it much easier for water to get into the housing, stay in the housing and cause problems
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Originally Posted by miamijim
(Post 18388996)
Tektro 800a should work with a simple swap of the pinch bolt and adjuster.
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Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky
(Post 18388178)
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois
(Post 18391904)
The reach of the 800A is much too long for his application.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 18391928)
Hey, that's my wife's bike. What's it doing at your house?!
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I tried running the cable up the seat tube to a clamp and then down to the brake. It works, but I don't like it. It looks goofy to me. It wasn't easy to find a cable clamp that fits a seat tube.
The bend at the top is pretty tight, but you can get away with that with lined cables. |
Subscribing, as I'm facing the same challenge with this Cornelo. I've looked at Sheldon's solution, but that's a little too crude for my taste.
http://myalbum.com/photo/vuzDIVCHargI/540.jpg |
Another way to do this is insert a noodle into the brake caliper's cable stop. This makes the cable bend much easier. I went this way instead of of using a knarp and reversing the cable stop.
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois
(Post 18391904)
The reach of the 800A is much too long for his application.
Tektro 539 looks modifiable. Sunlite 420 as well. |
I have converted a few to top pull, where your last cable guide is start you loop there, then get a chrome down tube guide for the seat tube, voila done.
Less ability for water to get in, I compared the cable after a year to the old one from the lower routing and there is significant discolouration to the lower routed inner , and some rust starting to form when it was taken out, both cables were in use for the same period of time, so water is a factor in lower routing. Just my 2c. |
Originally Posted by degan
(Post 18388203)
I'd be very surprised if any exist that can be switched. I don't think I've ever seen a dual pivot that didn't just have a threaded vertical hole where the cable stop would have to be to make it work.
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Originally Posted by miamijim
(Post 18388996)
Tektro 800a should work with a simple swap of the pinch bolt and adjuster.
http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/franken...ottom-pull.jpg |
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