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Old 08-18-19, 03:44 AM
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Steve Bauer serial nos.

T-Mar,Just discovered this thread (after reading the one on the Steve Bauer Mystery Bike), and I'm intrigued. I have several SB's, so I tried to confirm their dates of manufacture using their serial numbers. Not sure the guide works for them, though. Like the gentleman up-thread with the SB Whistler, mine have SN's that start with two capital letters, followed by 5 numbers. That doesn't seem to fit the Yamaguchi system suggested for them, as it starts out with letter-number-letter. The ones that do appear to correspond (during the mid-80's) to the SB sequence look to be those of Fuji, Kawamura, Maruishi, Miyata and Tsunoda - but of them, only Maruishi's produced dates that make sense.
Specifically, mine have SN's that start with either F (like both the Whistler's and the SB Mystery Bike's) or G; followed by either H, N or S. Assuming the second letter refers to a fortnight, Mariushi's system would give them dates ranging from April '86 to April '87 - certainly a period compatible with their colour schemes. Do you think Maruishi could have been the (or a) builder of early SB frames? Or have I muffed something? Thanks so much, BTW, for putting together and sharing all this info!
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Old 08-21-19, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gryclyne View Post
T-Mar,Just discovered this thread (after reading the one on the Steve Bauer Mystery Bike), and I'm intrigued. I have several SB's, so I tried to confirm their dates of manufacture using their serial numbers. Not sure the guide works for them, though. Like the gentleman up-thread with the SB Whistler, mine have SN's that start with two capital letters, followed by 5 numbers. That doesn't seem to fit the Yamaguchi system suggested for them, as it starts out with letter-number-letter. The ones that do appear to correspond (during the mid-80's) to the SB sequence look to be those of Fuji, Kawamura, Maruishi, Miyata and Tsunoda - but of them, only Maruishi's produced dates that make sense.
Specifically, mine have SN's that start with either F (like both the Whistler's and the SB Mystery Bike's) or G; followed by either H, N or S. Assuming the second letter refers to a fortnight, Mariushi's system would give them dates ranging from April '86 to April '87 - certainly a period compatible with their colour schemes. Do you think Maruishi could have been the (or a) builder of early SB frames? Or have I muffed something? Thanks so much, BTW, for putting together and sharing all this info!
While we've definitely seen Yamaguchi manufactured Steve Bauer, that doesn't mean they were the only contractor. The guide is a dynamic process and I am adding new sources on a fairly regular basis,. as they surface and are identified. Yes, I saw the bicycles you mentioned and Maruishi is definitely one possibility. Unfortunately, Steve Bauer don't surface very often and I have few samples in the database. It you want to submit your serial numbers and pictures, that may increase my confidence in Maruishi being a contractor for the brand.
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Old 08-23-19, 07:49 PM
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T-Mar - Tried responding with pix, but they wound up in the gallery, without my message appearing at all (??). I presume you can find them though, and I hope they help! (I do find it curious that two of them have the NS on the BB, but the third is on the seat tube. It'd make you think a different company made it - yet the SN's all follow the same letter-number pattern...)
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Old 08-24-19, 06:45 AM
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T-Mar - Tried responding with pix, but they wound up in the gallery, without my message appearing at all (??). I presume you can find them though, and I hope they help! (I do find it curious that two of them have the NS on the BB, but the third is on the seat tube. It'd make you think a different company made it - yet the SN's all follow the same letter-number pattern...)
It's normal for pictures to default to a gallery album under the member's forum ID, when the member has less then 10 posts. I regularly refer there for picttures from new members. However, in this case I can't find your pictures. They should be less than a day old and near the front but I don't see an album with your forum ID. Regardless, since your next post will be your 10th, you should be able to attach pictures to your post.
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Old 08-24-19, 08:53 AM
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Hmm...I can get to them by going to the gallery and clicking on "My Pictures" - but I don't actually see how one goes about finding someone else's.
I'll re-post.
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Old 08-24-19, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by gryclyne View Post
Hmm...I can get to them by going to the gallery and clicking on "My Pictures" - but I don't actually see how one goes about finding someone else's.
I'll re-post.
All the pics, even those for members with less than 10 posts, should be here https://www.bikeforums.net/g/albums
However, there might be restriction on new members viewing other members albums. I'm not sure. Regardless, it's a moot point now that you've achieved 10 posts.

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Old 08-24-19, 02:18 PM
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F to B: Mistral (CrMo 4130); Sirocco, Chinook (both Tange 900); Cyclone (Ishiwata 022)


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Old 08-24-19, 02:53 PM
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Based on the liveries, they are all 1986-1987 models. This raises my confidence in Maruishi being the manufacturer but what escalates to the matter to "almost certainty" cataegory is the tubing decal of the Mistral. The layout is suspiciously reminiscent of the generic tubing decals applied to Maruishi models of the mid-1980s. Similar decals are also seen on Maruishi manufactured Nashbar bicycles of this era.

It was fairly common for marketing brands such as Steve Bauer to use multiple contractors. They were always looking for the best balance between price, workmanship and materials, so contractors could change from year to year and often their were different sources for different levels of bicycles. Based on your collection, it would appear that Maruishi was the prime source for at least the entry level and lower mid-range models during 1986-1987.

Based on the serial numbers, the Mistral and Chinook should be 1986 models, while the Cyclone should be a 1987 model manufactured in late 1986. I've seen cases where manufacturers have changed the serial number location each time they rolled over the serial number sequence and some who used alternate locations depending on the customer, but neither case would seem to fit your bicycles.

Thxs for posting. However, if you want to survive on the forum without being constantly called out, you'll have to learn to post photos taken from the drive side, so that the drive train components are are more visible.
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Thx for the info, T-Mar - and the tip. Just posted some shots of my ''new'' SB on the ''Mystery Steve Bauer'' thread. Hope I got it right!
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MMMmm..I got an 80's Sears road bike, I guessed it was an FS10, but none of your numbers are near those on my bike, for instance, mine doesn't have any letter codes, but an 8 serial number whose first 3 numbers are "702" followed by a "489" underneath followed by a dot and another 6 numbers... any ideas who would have made this, and dates?

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Here it is! I need to descipher this code from my old Sears Free Spirit..
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Old 08-29-19, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by gryclyne View Post
Just posted some shots of my ''new'' SB on the ''Mystery Steve Bauer'' thread.
For your data bank, the SN is GH72779
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