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Old 12-28-15, 08:15 PM
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I've learned from you guys the importance of good-looking fender alignment. With that said, is there a fender set made specifically for 27" tires, or does it truly not matter if they are listed for 700 tires?

The bike is an '85 Shogun 500, with 1 1/8" Panaracer Paselas. I'd like polished alloy, full coverage, unobtrusive stays, at a reasonable price. (Not too fussy, 'eh?)

Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated!


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You can have everything you want except a reasonable price, unless you get lucky.

Many of the plastic mudguards (Bluemels, SKS etc) will universally fit to 26 x 1 1/4, 700 and 27" wheels depending on frame. The clean lines result from patient mounting, facilitated by choice swearing. Alloy is less forgiving but can usually be made to fit using shims and spacers at the frame contact points. Getting the right width is your first priority.

Nice bike. The old Esge/SKS narrow plastic mudguards with the black centre strip would rock that one. Like this, without the light imo.
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I have never had any issue mounting 700c fenders on 27" wheels. They all have a bit of give in the design.
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Thanks. I do agree that the silver, with black center striping, would look very good. The new SKS chromoplastic mudguards, though, appear to come with a large black mudflap at the bottom - looking a bit fugly imo!

Also, I see two sizes offered, 20-28 or 28-37.
My 1 1/8" Paselas are 28.5, so I'd have to go for the 28-37, right?

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Originally Posted by 67tony View Post
I've learned from you guys the importance of good-looking fender alignment. With that said, is there a fender set made specifically for 27" tires, or does it truly not matter if they are listed for 700 tires?

The bike is an '85 Shogun 500, with 1 1/8" Panaracer Paselas. I'd like polished alloy, full coverage, unobtrusive stays, at a reasonable price. (Not too fussy, 'eh?)

Any ideas or recommendations are appreciated!
VO Facette, $65. You can often find VO's on sale.
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Originally Posted by 67tony View Post
Thanks. I do agree that the silver, with black center striping, would look very good. The new SKS chromoplastic mudguards, though, appear to come with a large black mudflap at the bottom - looking a bit fugly imo!

Also, I see two sizes offered, 20-28 or 28-37.
My 1 1/8" Paselas are 28.5, so I'd have to go for the 28-37, right?
I'd go narrow. This is worth 2 cents!
Keeps the bike streamlined and the water naturally moves inward. Agree on fuglies...all thick black flaps are to be avoided or carefully trimmed with utility knife if the set is black. Maybe stick with your alloys?
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I'd go narrow. This is worth 2 cents!
Keeps the bike streamlined and the water naturally moves inward. Agree on fuglies...all thick black flaps are to be avoided or carefully trimmed with utility knife if the set is black. Maybe stick with your alloys?
Mudflaps are important additions to fenders. The problem is that the little extensions on plastic fenders aren't very useful. The front fender mudflap will keep your bottom bracket area clean if it goes down far enough. Here's the area with fenders, but without a front mudflap:

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Screw mudflaps, they're ugly; just buy the longest fenders you can find.
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I second gugie on the mudflaps. A good, deep front mudflap stops nearly as much water/crap as the rest of both fenders (and keeps your feet far drier and cleaner). I assume I am making ones for any new fenders I buy (and that I will have to remove whatever comes with the front fender. Exception, the old Blummel fenders. Those flaps didn't have to come off until they had been through two or more winters and were officially dead. The English "get" fenders.)

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Zefal makes a silver colored plastic fender that's close to what you want (all except metal). Check Nashbar; $20 on sale a couple months ago, but full price isn't much more.

Don't sweat the difference between 27" and 700c. It's imperceptible.

If you want the truth about mudflaps, try riding in the rain behind someone who doesn't have them. I did that today. Messy business. @nlerner and @TimmyT may also have something to say about mudflaps. And no, I don't mean the Spiñal Tap song.
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Old 12-29-15, 03:23 PM
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You could consider these. Toba "Frank". Niagara Cycle carries them, but currently out of stock, aluminum fenders with stainless stays, $40.
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Old 12-29-15, 03:27 PM
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I've been happy with Planet Bike and SKS fenders. The price is right and the current plastic fenders are very durable and easy to install.
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I firmly believe that these mudflaps deserve short shrift and should be butchered immediately.


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Old 12-29-15, 06:56 PM
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In plastic, I like the SKS Longboards (F & R mudflaps included), shown here on my RB-T:



In alloy, the V-O offerings are relatively inexpensive and look pretty good. I have a set on my commuter with added leather mudflaps (sorry that the rear didn't quite make it in this pic!):



Another favorite and perhaps the easiest to install I've experienced are the Planet Bike Cascadia, here on my Rivendell:

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Mudflappenin' be happenin'.
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Put fenders on. To mis-quote Nancy Reagan "Just say "No" to mud.
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
Another favorite and perhaps the easiest to install I've experienced are the Planet Bike Cascadia, here on my Rivendell:

Whoah! You have a Riv? Nice! I've had opportunity to compare recent vintage Rivs to Rene Herse cycles from the 40's and early 50's. Frankly, I think the Rivs are nicer. Just look closely at the quality of the brazing and the lugs and it is apparent to even the most untrained of eyes. Just my 2 cents.
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That looks great!

I had a Gran Sport for many years and was very happy with it. Used to have some aluminum Bluemels for it, but I think the white plastic Blumels look better (and probably rattle less).

Now I have a pair of white Bluemel Popular fenders in the closet waiting for the right bike to be mounted on! I picked them up fairly cheap at the LBS when they were cleaning out their basement.

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Whoah! You have a Riv? Nice! I've had opportunity to compare recent vintage Rivs to Rene Herse cycles from the 40's and early 50's. Frankly, I think the Rivs are nicer. Just look closely at the quality of the brazing and the lugs and it is apparent to even the most untrained of eyes. Just my 2 cents.
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In my opinion, VO fenders are cheap enough and come in enough different styles and widths to fit the bill. I have their 700c fenders on a 27" bike and they work. Finding the right fender line is more to do about spending enough time, adequate amount of beer, and a room away from impressionable minds to get to the point where you're happy. Trial and error and some small modifications likely will be called for.
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Whoah! You have a Riv? Nice! I've had opportunity to compare recent vintage Rivs to Rene Herse cycles from the 40's and early 50's. Frankly, I think the Rivs are nicer. Just look closely at the quality of the brazing and the lugs and it is apparent to even the most untrained of eyes. Just my 2 cents.
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I just use them in crappy weather so it doesn't matter what they look like...they come off for normal use.
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I resemble that remark! (My bike). And agree that mud flaps are essential if you plan on doing much wet/dirty riding. I added some to my Holdsworth 650 tourer for the C&O canal trip this summer, and my drivetrain and riding partners all appreciated them.

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