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Old 01-10-16, 01:20 PM
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My 1978 Trek TX700.
700-32 Compass tires on CR18 rims
Dia-Compe brakes
Shimano 3x9 shifters & derailleurs with a Stronglight 48/38/28 triple.

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Originally Posted by BradH View Post
My 1978 Trek TX700.
700-32 Compass tires on CR18 rims
Dia-Compe brakes
Shimano 3x9 shifters & derailleurs with a Stronglight 48/38/28 triple.

That is cool.

Do you have a thread or more pix of that?

I think it would be cool to get a hold of a thrashed TX700 and get cantilevers, cable guides, bottle bosses and everything brazed on. The geometry of those bikes combined with the 531 makes for an outrageously nice riding bike.
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Yesterday on the Univega I "toured" 13 miles for a shakeout.



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Originally Posted by Velocivixen View Post
Yesterday on the Univega I "toured" 13 miles for a shakeout.



1978 Univega Gran Rally by velocivixen, on Flickr
Nice looking bike you have there!

What tires are those?
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neither of my two '80s gran rallys had eyelets. both also had corncob-like rear clusters.
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@gomango - Thanks. Tires are Clement Strada LGG 700 x 28. $33 at Universal Cycles. Seem to ride nicely. Zippier than the Pasela 32's I replaced.
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Originally Posted by Velocivixen View Post
@gomango - Thanks. Tires are Clement Strada LGG 700 x 28. $33 at Universal Cycles. Seem to ride nicely. Zippier than the Pasela 32's I replaced.
Heh thanks!
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It's safe to say I cut my C&V teeth on sports tourers.
Peugeot PH10 Carbolite 103, Raleigh SuperCourse 531 straight gauge, Japanese Bianchi Ishiwata SuperSet, Trek600 531CS, Schwinn, Fuji

I kept the 1981/82 Austro Daimler Olympian - 531 butted, Nervar crankset, Huret derailleurs, narrow handlebars, Mavic tubulars GEL280/GL330. Has been serving duty as the fendered wet bike.




edit: The 1982(?) Harding branded Holdsworth Special (as yet unbuilt) is in the same category. I believe it was termed = a frame for the racer, who seeks qualities for club rides. With long Campy dropouts it can be dialed for different conditions.


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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
That is cool.

Do you have a thread or more pix of that?

I think it would be cool to get a hold of a thrashed TX700 and get cantilevers, cable guides, bottle bosses and everything brazed on. The geometry of those bikes combined with the 531 makes for an outrageously nice riding bike.
I don't have any more pictures or a thread but I should do that. The geometry is somewhat unique. I measure it at 6cm bb drop, 5.6cm of rake and 73/73.
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Originally Posted by BradH View Post
I don't have any more pictures or a thread but I should do that. The geometry is somewhat unique. I measure it at 6cm bb drop, 5.6cm of rake and 73/73.
You totally should.

They're really special bikes, and because they're pretty rare, there's not a whole lot of pix and stuff about them.
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I've got a few, depending on how broad your definition is.





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I've got a few, depending on how broad your definition is.





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I've searched the threads and it seems that the sports touring bicycle is the Rodney Dangerfield of bikes; they just don't get a lot of respect. There are long threads on touring bikes and racing bikes but not on these classic in between bikes.

There are only 2 rules. The first is that the bike should have long reach brakes. Of course back in the day, long reach brakes were just called standard reach brakes, . Still bikes with cantilevers (mainly touring and cross bikes) and short reach (39-49 mm) brakes need not apply; they have their own threads. The second is that the bike should have eyelets front and rear too (otherwise it's just a racing bike).

Sports touring bikes were designed to be in-betweeners but they're sweet bikes that can take a 28 or even a 32c tire. They'll work fine for light touring and fast day rides. They make good randonnee bikes. And they get no respect.
So as not to break the rules, why long reach brakes? My entry a 1999 Waterford RSE, Road Sport Extended, Is basically named Sport Touring. Except it's sporting cantilever brakes. The factory billed it as a do anything, go anywhere credit card touring rig.
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So as not to break the rules, why long reach brakes? My entry a 1999 Waterford RSE, Road Sport Extended, Is basically named Sport Touring. Except it's sporting cantilever brakes. The factory billed it as a do anything, go anywhere credit card touring rig.
Great question; go ahead and post it and explain why you think it belongs here. Waterfords are obviously beautiful bikes. The vast majority of bikes with cantilevers aren't really sports touring bikes; they are either touring bikes (and there is along thread for those) or cross bikes (there aren't a lot of vintage cross bikes out there). But it looks like your bike doesn't have the longish wheelbase of a true touring bike so go ahead and post, .
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^^^ Going to disagree with the post above...I don't think the brakes have anything to do with it, and some of these separations are by degrees and nebulous anyway. Didn't some of those Herse rando bikes use cantis? Jack Taylor did it. I'm pretty sure there are others that did as well.

In terms of wheel base/geometry and features, a 60s Cinelli SC is pretty much a sports tourer (shrug) as the term came to be used.
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I finished the International last night. This morning, I changed the tires and rode it to work. I am pleased beyond expectations and hopes.

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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
^^^ Going to disagree with the post above...I don't think the brakes have anything to do with it, and some of these separations are by degrees and nebulous anyway. Didn't some of those Herse rando bikes use cantis? Jack Taylor did it. I'm pretty sure there are others that did as well.

In terms of wheel base/geometry and features, a 60s Cinelli SC is pretty much a sports tourer (shrug) as the term came to be used.
Touchdown.

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I finished the International last night. This morning, I changed the tires and rode it to work. I am pleased beyond expectations and hopes.

This is important breaking news in the C&V world. It looks great. I hope you have informed @gugie who is worried that you might not finish the project until 2020 (see his post on this).
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake View Post
^^^ Going to disagree with the post above...I don't think the brakes have anything to do with it, and some of these separations are by degrees and nebulous anyway. Didn't some of those Herse rando bikes use cantis? Jack Taylor did it. I'm pretty sure there are others that did as well.

In terms of wheel base/geometry and features, a 60s Cinelli SC is pretty much a sports tourer (shrug) as the term came to be used.
Cantilevers are more often associated with touring bikes than sports touring bikes. Like most thing this is a matter of degree on a sliding scale. The point of the thread was to exclude racing bikes and touring bikes (they both have their own threads) and see pictures of sports touring bikes that don't quite fit either category. But again this is a matter of degree and judgment.

So far this thread is exceeding my hopes. Lots of really great bikes that don't quite fit the other categories.
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Yeah, I'm enjoying these pictures more than I would have expected to.

@bikemig, I will let the entire world know.
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I really like my wife's bike. I think a lot of us view those all'rounder/sports tourer Japanese bikes as the perfect every day commuter, and the one I built up for the missus has made her very happy.

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This isn't a reality yet as it is a project. The frame is primed and ready for sanding. I did a preliminary build to see what it would be like.

It is a long time coming and still on the journey! Some may remember that this was a drewed frame that I had a number of braze-ons added to restore and supplement the original design. Since it was drewed, it was open for more modifications like the STI DT cable adjustment parts, rack bosses, and filled the added DT water bottle mounts that were sticking out. Follow the link if you are interested in the details of what was done. Last week I was thinking of adding hub generator until I looked at the prices!

I will likely put a wider range rear block on and I have a longer cage for the NR DR. Front bag would be nice too.

[IMG]104_PaTrek., on Flickr[/IMG]

BTW: I have never "Sport Toured", but what the heck. Can't do it without a bike! Besides, it can be used for commuting.
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Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
Great question; go ahead and post it and explain why you think it belongs here. Waterfords are obviously beautiful bikes. The vast majority of bikes with cantilevers aren't really sports touring bikes; they are either touring bikes (and there is along thread for those) or cross bikes (there aren't a lot of vintage cross bikes out there). But it looks like your bike doesn't have the longish wheelbase of a true touring bike so go ahead and post, .
My 2 cents. A vintage Cyclocross bike is going to have several distinctive features, including cantilever brakes, cable guides for the rear brake and rear derailleur above the top tube and ample mud clearance between the seat-stays and fork crown at the brakes. If a bike has Cantilever brakes but has the rear brake cable below the the top-tube, It's a Touring or Sports Touring bike.

Most Sports Touring bikes are going to have caliper brakes, but exceptions are out there. Touring bikes will have a very long wheelbase and chainstays, longer than would be typical of a Sports Touring bike.

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My 2 cents. A vintage Cyclocross bike is going to have several distinctive features, including cantilever brakes, cable guides for the rear brake and rear derailleur above the top tube and ample mud clearance between the seat-stays and fork crown at the brakes. If a bike has Cantilever brakes but has the rear brake cable below the the top-tube, It's a Touring or Sports Touring bike.

Most Sports Touring bikes are going to have caliper brakes, but exceptions are out there.
I'd hate to kick out a vintage cross bike like yours from the thread,

There are darn few out there and your simoncini. I was really just trying to exclude racing and touring bikes. They get all the love on this site; I want a thread for the in betweeners. So go ahead and post the simoncini.
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Three more French ones

'80s D Cattin, '76 Singer, '70s CNC (650B).
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